TLR 22 Racing Buggy Thread
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I have a question on the setup sheets. I'll be running a shorty pack as most of the setup sheets indicate. When the sheet dictates "Battery Forward". Is that forward in the tray with the battery stop in the forward position or in the rearward position?
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About piston sizes. Can you simply add the holes sizes to get a sort of piston number? Like say the 55 piston 4 holes most people used to run. I think the holes size was about 1.2mm. They combined would be 4.8 right? When we now run 2 holes with 1.6mm holes that would be 3.2mm. That would make a much tighter piston, am I right? If you wanted to go for more pack, why just not run the 57 pistons? Think they have 1mm holes. Do you want even more pack then that?
Another question, does it makes any difference if I run 2 holes at 1.5mm or 3 holes at say 1mm?
Another question, does it makes any difference if I run 2 holes at 1.5mm or 3 holes at say 1mm?
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Typically this means the battery tray is in the rear position and the battery is all the way forward in that. To make things even more complicated a lot of us use the Alum battery tray and that has two positions and a lot of use use that to move the tray 10mm further forward in the rear position. Are you confused yet?
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Typically this means the battery tray is in the rear position and the battery is all the way forward in that. To make things even more complicated a lot of us use the Alum battery tray and that has two positions and a lot of use use that to move the tray 10mm further forward in the rear position. Are you confused yet?
That's good news, I'll have more room for my Rx and PT then. I'll have to pick up that AL tray too. With two nitro 1/8 scales and now this little speedster my "need to order" list is getting long...and costly .
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LOL I think I know what your're saying. I saw the "10mm forward" comment on one of the sheets, now I understand what that means.
That's good news, I'll have more room for my Rx and PT then. I'll have to pick up that AL tray too. With two nitro 1/8 scales and now this little speedster my "need to order" list is getting long...and costly .
That's good news, I'll have more room for my Rx and PT then. I'll have to pick up that AL tray too. With two nitro 1/8 scales and now this little speedster my "need to order" list is getting long...and costly .
I think we need a little cheat sheet that lables the different battery tray positions. Might try and whip up something.
About piston sizes. Can you simply add the holes sizes to get a sort of piston number?
Like say the 55 piston 4 holes most people used to run. I think the holes size was about 1.2mm. They combined would be 4.8 right? When we now run 2 holes with 1.6mm holes that would be 3.2mm. That would make a much tighter piston, am I right? If you wanted to go for more pack, why just not run the 57 pistons? Think they have 1mm holes. Do you want even more pack then that?
Another question, does it makes any difference if I run 2 holes at 1.5mm or 3 holes at say 1mm?
Like say the 55 piston 4 holes most people used to run. I think the holes size was about 1.2mm. They combined would be 4.8 right? When we now run 2 holes with 1.6mm holes that would be 3.2mm. That would make a much tighter piston, am I right? If you wanted to go for more pack, why just not run the 57 pistons? Think they have 1mm holes. Do you want even more pack then that?
Another question, does it makes any difference if I run 2 holes at 1.5mm or 3 holes at say 1mm?
At low speeds as many oil can move through the piston as the sum of the hole areas. To compare pistons in this regard you have to multiply the square of the hole diameters with the number of holes.
At high speeds the movement of oil becomes turbulent, where less oil can pass. The smaller the size of the holes, the sooner it reaches these higher speeds.
Generally this high speed motion is reached when hitting the cafe of a jump or landing. This means if you have fewer holes but bigger, your shocks will be more predictable, but will bottom out on smaller jumps.
you have to add the squares of piston di
Then add the Orion WTS battery to the equation and it gets even more complex.
Should I switch to the two hole piston? If so what are the changes going to be?
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if you go from say 4 hole 55 to 2 hole 1.6 pistons. I found corner handling was very similar but the car landed better and in the rougher parts of the track the car was more settled. Did not move around as much. Basically it gives a little more pack without effecting roll as much as say going down to a 56 4 hole piston may.
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Typically this means the battery tray is in the rear position and the battery is all the way forward in that. To make things even more complicated a lot of us use the Alum battery tray and that has two positions and a lot of use use that to move the tray 10mm further forward in the rear position. Are you confused yet?
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What are people doing to remove the bump steer this buggy has.
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if you go from say 4 hole 55 to 2 hole 1.6 pistons. I found corner handling was very similar but the car landed better and in the rougher parts of the track the car was more settled. Did not move around as much. Basically it gives a little more pack without effecting roll as much as say going down to a 56 4 hole piston may.
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list your set up and what type of surface you are running on and lots will chime in to help! (the 2 hole piston mod settles down the car but if your spinning out through the corners its more of a set issue you have)