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Old 09-14-2016, 04:14 PM
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Hey guys have a question. I have a 17.5 V11 and I run it in blinky. I have to have the end can timing at around 55 or so to get it to pull 6 amps under no load. Dosent that seem high for motor timing. Havent had a chance to run it so not sure what the temp would be. Anyone else running a 17.5 V11 in blinky and pulling 6 amps?
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i've been told to run it around 55 so it seems about right
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Old 09-19-2016, 10:10 PM
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Hi, can anyone recommend a starting point for an R1 13.5 to run in blinky TC? Been running LRP and Tekin motors previously.
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Old 09-19-2016, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by nova2015
Hi, can anyone recommend a starting point for an R1 13.5 to run in blinky TC? Been running LRP and Tekin motors previously.
Try here
https://www.r1wurks.com.au/pages/r1-wurks-tech-tips
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Originally Posted by nova2015
Hi, can anyone recommend a starting point for an R1 13.5 to run in blinky TC? Been running LRP and Tekin motors previously.
Hello. I would recommend a 4.5-4.6 FDR with 55 deg timing on the can for the V11, or 28-30 deg timing on can for the V7 motor. Check the temps as well, but it likely won't exceed 160F with these settings if you are running indoors.

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Thank you, this will be outdoors, ambient temps 20-25 deg C.
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Originally Posted by nova2015
Thank you, this will be outdoors, ambient temps 20-25 deg C.
Those are pretty mild outdoor conditions. I think you will be fine with the settings as already posted.

Outdoors this year I ran a 4.59 gear ratio on my V11 with 54 degrees of timing on the can/motolyser, with an ambient temp of 90+F most days. If you have a fan, I would recommend using it.
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Old 09-26-2016, 11:38 AM
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Anyone have a issue with keeping the phase C connection soldered to the motor?

I have a 17.5 V11 running 48* timing and geared at 3.88 and for some strange reason the C phase wire keeps unsoldering. First time was in warm up laps, so no real heat built up into the motor yet, and the second time was about 5 laps into a main. It comes unsoldered but it looks like it comes off as if the soldered never flowed to the terminal. Its almost like there is some kind of coating on the terminals that lets go.

Its always the C terminal. The speed control is a little warm, but I think this is due to the C phase coming off and limping the car to a safe place off the track.

I had one of the guys that solder for a living look at it and he couldn't see it being a cold solder joint.

I even cleaned all the terminals, and cut back the motor wires and re-tinned them with silver solder, and still had the same problem.

So anyone run into this, and did you find a fix. One of the guys suggested filing down the terminals in case the it some strange tinning put on them, might give that a try, but honestly can't say I've ever had this issue in many years of racing.

BTW, the motor is a beast when the wires stay on, lol.
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Originally Posted by Johnny Wishbone
Anyone have a issue with keeping the phase C connection soldered to the motor?

I have a 17.5 V11 running 48* timing and geared at 3.88 and for some strange reason the C phase wire keeps unsoldering. First time was in warm up laps, so no real heat built up into the motor yet, and the second time was about 5 laps into a main. It comes unsoldered but it looks like it comes off as if the soldered never flowed to the terminal. Its almost like there is some kind of coating on the terminals that lets go.

Its always the C terminal. The speed control is a little warm, but I think this is due to the C phase coming off and limping the car to a safe place off the track.

I had one of the guys that solder for a living look at it and he couldn't see it being a cold solder joint.

I even cleaned all the terminals, and cut back the motor wires and re-tinned them with silver solder, and still had the same problem.

So anyone run into this, and did you find a fix. One of the guys suggested filing down the terminals in case the it some strange tinning put on them, might give that a try, but honestly can't say I've ever had this issue in many years of racing.

BTW, the motor is a beast when the wires stay on, lol.
The timing plate is mostly likely the cause. It may be slightly bent and causing a short. Take off the timing plate and check it on a flat surface. Easy fix if you haven't overheated the solder on the stator.

Hope this helps.

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Old 09-26-2016, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DirtyDog3375
The timing plate is mostly likely the cause. It may be slightly bent and causing a short. Take off the timing plate and check it on a flat surface. Easy fix if you haven't overheated the solder on the stator.

Hope this helps.

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You nailed it. looks like my phase A was going to be a issue as well. Looks like when the timing screws are tightened the plate pulls out slightly. 3 screws would have eliminated the issue though. Thanks for the help.
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Originally Posted by Johnny Wishbone
You nailed it. looks like my phase A was going to be a issue as well. Looks like when the timing screws are tightened the plate pulls out slightly. 3 screws would have eliminated the issue though. Thanks for the help.


Glad I could help and hope its all good mate.

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Old 10-03-2016, 01:30 AM
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Do Speed Passion Pro1.1 ESC and R1v11 (21.5t) motors like each other as I replace my old SP MMM motor with the R1v11 and now I get a delayed start off the line and sometimes it will stall for a second then take off again when doing laps. I see a fews post back about cogging. Its set at 5.9amps and 51* so would dropping the timing down stop the cogging.
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v15 on the website, any info for us little people?
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Old 10-21-2016, 02:16 PM
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talking with someone with R1 at IIC i was told that its lighter , better timing balance , and cheaper ,
and 5 min later said it should be faster
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Hopefully all four.
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