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Old 04-07-2006, 09:51 AM   #2806
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ive been running brood batteries and motors and they are unbelieveable on power and punch you get, they also last for power to.
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Old 04-07-2006, 11:34 AM   #2807
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We don't race dynos we race cars. I sold my dyno...its not as accurate as 5 minutes on the track and a time printout.
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Old 04-07-2006, 01:41 PM   #2808
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Hey guys,

Running a FK04 in a 4 cell class foam tyres. I've been running competitavely with a P2K2 with a 37-38mm roll out.

What roll out would you recommend for a Team Brood Monster (Stock) and what springs should I be looking at?
(80x40 Ozite track, 3 lbs min weight)

Also, whats the min. comm diameter?

Thanks for answering newbie questions
i gear the monster anywhere between 1.05-1.15

depends on the motor really, your track is about average size for club carpet tracks, but i have never run 4-cell touring car so its really hard to say, not many places in the US run 4cell TC (is this oval maybe??? )

for 4cell, try red/red or red/green

the comm is getting really small around the 0.270 range, some will be dead at a larger size, some can go smaller... depends on the arm.

hope that helps
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Old 04-07-2006, 05:52 PM   #2809
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hey peter i was wondering what a good roll out would before with the co27 rubber tires and the track is trackside in milwkee wis.
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Old 04-07-2006, 05:59 PM   #2810
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So much about how a motor performs is on the user end.
and who a motor tuner/battery matcher can sponser will predicate which tuner will take out TQ/wins
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Old 04-07-2006, 06:32 PM   #2811
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hey peter i was wondering what a good roll out would before with the co27 rubber tires and the track is trackside in milwkee wis.
i would ask your local fast guy, but you can start around a 7.2 ratio. thats where i would start any stock motor on rubber tires.
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and who a motor tuner/battery matcher can sponser will predicate which tuner will take out TQ/wins
im not sure what this means??
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Old 04-07-2006, 06:51 PM   #2813
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thanks peter and keep up the good work.
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Old 04-09-2006, 05:05 PM   #2814
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Just wondering, has anyone tuned/run an element 19t, but with laydown brushes instead of the V2... and how they sprung it/brushes?
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Old 04-09-2006, 08:45 PM   #2815
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Just wondering, has anyone tuned/run an element 19t, but with laydown brushes instead of the V2... and how they sprung it/brushes?
(When I say "We" I am speaking for Florida 19T racers not Team Brood)

On Asphalt the Reedy Quad Mag 19 has been the dominant motor for a long time. The Orion/Peak Element/Dynasty 19's are stating to replace the Reedy's here in FL because they run cooler and are just as fast if not faster.

We gear the lay down brush Orion 19's around a 5.40:1 final drive on big tracks (140'x70'). Thats a 36.65mm (1.44") roll out. It sounds high but it works great and the motors finish strong.

We are running Trinity XXX brushes with Orion black mod springs (crazy stiff). Break it in for 8min with a fan at 2v. The motor will pull ~17A at 2v at first but after a few minutes this will settle down to between 9 to 10A and you will be ready to go. After a run skim the comm, brush off the brush face with a fiber comm stick and break the motor in for ~5 min at 2v with a fan. It will pull between 8-9A and be just as fast as the first run. The brushes will last 15-20 runs.

The V2 Orion 19's need stiff MR springs, Sprint Edge brushes and a final drive around 5.15:1. With this gear they are ballistic.

FYI, even though C2's are fast we don't run them here because with the gear ratios we need to run and our ambient air temps in the high 90's the magnets get fried fast. C2's use the same magnets as stock motors. Reedy, Check Point, Orion and Integy use Mod motor magnets than can take the heat. You can get the C2 can zapped and they will be fine again but if you run the other motors you don't have to worry about this.
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Hey Adrian, exellent reply about the 19T, we run the Peak Dynasty as a control motor, I have one question about amp draw when checking motors, is more or less amp draw better.
I use a Peak motor checker and it has amp draw on it.
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Old 04-11-2006, 02:49 AM   #2817
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What is the differance between the sprint and the sprint edge brushes? I now run the edge, but tested on the dyno, they seem to lose a bit power. I also have to replace them more often then the normal sprint brushes. Is that normal?

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Old 04-11-2006, 03:43 AM   #2818
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If you mean the physical difference, just the flat sides but i guess you know that already.
The flat 'edge' makes the motor switch harder, in theory this gives more torque but theory is one thing......
It is possible that the edge brush will wear faster, there is more pressure on the face due to the smaller footprint and maybe it runs hotter due to the harder switch?

Somebody correct me if I am wrong, I think I got most of it right though...
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Hugo forgot to mention we run 12T motors, not 7T or 8T which may make a difference.

What is see is a loss of torque due to the smaller brushes especially higher in the revs. (less overlap compared to normal brushes).
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Hey guys I orderd some parts on Sunday.I know it wont be processed on sunday, but how long does it take to arrive in Ontario, Canada? They didint specify how long it will take?


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