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Old 02-06-2006, 03:23 PM   #2461
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If you can't get a V2 motor to turn faster lap times with a 8x2 br00d arm in it than a 12x1 epoxy balanced Orion/Peak arm - You are doing something horribly wrong in the tuning &/or gearing department.

How about buying a 12x1 V2 motor from peak/orion, then buy a complete 12x1 V2 motor (Onroad Asphalt - Tuned Specifically for Asphalt Touring Car Racing) from br00d then go and re-test......


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If you were unhappy with the products you purchased, you should of shot an email off to [email protected] and I'm certain Eddie would of helped you and got you sorted out. Br00d has good customer service, so contacting them would of been a smart move... Coming on to this thread and sledging them was not.......

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Old 02-06-2006, 03:58 PM   #2462
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Really what ? do you mean the part about good luck & happy racing or something else ?

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Old 02-06-2006, 04:12 PM   #2463
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If you were unhappy with the products you purchased, you should of shot an email off to [email protected] and I'm certain Eddie would of helped you and got you sorted out. Br00d has good customer service, so contacting them .

should be e-mailed not sayd on thread . i was just responding to what you sayed jack

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Old 02-06-2006, 04:52 PM   #2464
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billtc3 - would it be possible to take a picture of the arm and post it here? I'd like to see what the windings looks like. I would be very surprised if the windings looked as bad as a machine wound arm...

Eddie is away at Snowbirds so you probably won't get a response from him until he gets back.
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I just got 3 packs of Super Stock Limited Factory Team Plus 1.20+ 380+ and I am looking for help with charge, discharge recommendations from Brood. I didn't see anything on the site and nothing came with the batteries Thanks.
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Just check SMC's website. I think thats where Eddie has been telling people to look up information.

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Old 02-06-2006, 06:53 PM   #2468
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Yes, the motor was assembled correctly. I set the timing with a Jet Racing timing jig, which, I think, is pretty accurate. I tried 10, 12 and 14 degrees of timing. I think an 8x2 motor should be set at 12 degrees approximately. To shim the arm, I let it sit in the magnetic field of the can and add shims in the front and the rear, so as to take away the play, not to change the position of the armature. I'm sure this is the right way. After breaking in the brushes for a few minutes, you could clearly see, on the arm and on the brushes, that part of the brush did not contact the com. Anyway, there's no reason to argue this, as the first arm was finally measured and was considerably sorter than the original V2 arm.

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I don't doubt Team Br00d know how to build motors. They certainly do. But, maybe, the motors they build, might not be all of the same standards. The fact they have won so many championships, doesn't guarrantee that when I order a motor / armature, I'll get a good one. I think this thread is for everybody and every opinion.
Did you order the arm directly from Team Br00d, or did you buy it at your LHS??
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Old 02-06-2006, 11:59 PM   #2469
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Bill bought the armatures from me. I bought them directly from Eddie (I can't understand what are you trying to imply PitCrew).

I have already emailed Eddie and I know that he will reply om Monday since he is attending Snowbirds. As soon as I realized what is the situation I gave the choice to my customers to return their armatures and exchange them with another armature.

The attached files show you what Bill describes.

8x2 is the mark after breakin (height of the armature is 42, normal height is 46)
9x2 you can see the difference between the 2 wires (hopefully is clear enough)

Now all we can do is wait for Eddie to return victorius and attend the matter

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Old 02-07-2006, 12:08 AM   #2470
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I emailed Eddie

Hey nninck, thanks for your support. The first pisture shows the faulty armature on the left and it's quite clear! The second picture... wow, I hadn't seen that, are they both supposed to be same winds, for the same application (I know the 2nd arm is "center cut" but what's with the wire thickness)? How do you explain this?

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Maybe they wind the centre cut armatures with different gauge wire for a reason...... Running smaller dia. wire may yield better overall performance on the centre cut arms........
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Bill bought the armatures from me. I bought them directly from Eddie (I can't understand what are you trying to imply PitCrew).

I have already emailed Eddie and I know that he will reply om Monday since he is attending Snowbirds. As soon as I realized what is the situation I gave the choice to my customers to return their armatures and exchange them with another armature.

The attached files show you what Bill describes.

8x2 is the mark after breakin (height of the armature is 42, normal height is 46)
9x2 you can see the difference between the 2 wires (hopefully is clear enough)

Now all we can do is wait for Eddie to return victorius and attend the matter

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My "implication" was that he may have purchased an arm that was designed for a different motor.

Its hard to tell from the pics, the one of the right looks like it has a shorter comm to me. At any rate, it may have been a simple accident, or the arm was unnoticable short or "defective" from the manufacturer (manufacturer of the arm itself). Thats the only way I can think of that would make the arm be shorter in overall length.

As for the other pic, they do wind motors with different gauge wire, even the same wind 9x2 for instance. ITs all in what you want. Different wire thickness gives different performance.

I'm sure things will be made right, and you will be happy.
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Maybe one is for touring carpet, other arm is for offroad or 1/12?
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I'm sure everything will be sorted out as soon as Eddie returns from snowbird!

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Old 02-07-2006, 10:20 PM   #2475
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hi i am looking at getting my first mod motor a 12x1 v2.

and also getting some pinions.

what rollout range should i get for this motor?

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