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Old 02-01-2006, 10:51 PM   #2446
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oh yea vacation fo me.....well i guess, still gotta build motors but im not getting paid for it.....

oh well will be fun
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Old 02-01-2006, 11:31 PM   #2447
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STEWARTFAN20-sorry for the late reply no the gearing shouldnt change but the F-brush will be shot in two runs. C2 run alittle hot so if you can add a fan to help out the brushes.
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thanks eddy

looking forward to be part of the team , new team driver/bill dolch

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lets rock at the birds guys have fun ,,,, ill be there next year



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Old 02-02-2006, 02:34 PM   #2449
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oh yea vacation fo me.....well i guess, still gotta build motors but im not getting paid for it.....

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You going to FL too? Maybe you should just give me your spot on the plane if so. i'll build motors down there for free....
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Old 02-02-2006, 04:15 PM   #2450
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You going to FL too? Maybe you should just give me your spot on the plane if so. i'll build motors down there for free....
oh yea.....not a chance in hell, i will bitch but im gonna be there wil big ol silver bells on
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Good luck to all the Brood guys going to the Birds!!!
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I ordered a stock motor at about noon on friday the 3rd will I get the motor by the 16th since the team is in florida?
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Old 02-05-2006, 08:31 PM   #2455
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I Just got one of the new Brood Stock motors and I am just trying to figure out a ballpark of where I should be for rollout. ANY SUGGESTIONS???

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Old 02-06-2006, 12:55 AM   #2456
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I recently got 2 Team Br00d armatures, 8x2, standard, for V2, asphalt, touring cars. One of them was 2mm shorter than the original V2 armature. When I aligned it in the magnetic field in the can, it settled far from the endbell, so only part of the brushes contacted the commutator. Clearly, this was not meant to be a V2 armature. The shop was kind enough to change it for a new V2 armature, even though they claimmed that YOU said all armatures are the same and they fit all motors! That's weird, as in your site you divide them into different categories... This time, size was right, so both armatures fit properly inside the can. The problem is that they look and perform as well (or, should I say, as bad) as machine wound armatures. On the dyno and in the track. In fact, they are only as fast as my standard (Orion and Peak) 12x1 motors. This is sad for an aftermarket product that's supposed to outperform the "stock" manufacturer armatures... Thanks for nothing Team Br00d
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I recently got 2 Team Br00d armatures, 8x2, standard, for V2, asphalt, touring cars. One of them was 2mm shorter than the original V2 armature. When I aligned it in the magnetic field in the can, it settled far from the endbell, so only part of the brushes contacted the commutator. Clearly, this was not meant to be a V2 armature. The shop was kind enough to change it for a new V2 armature, even though they claimmed that YOU said all armatures are the same and they fit all motors! That's weird, as in your site you divide them into different categories... This time, size was right, so both armatures fit properly inside the can. The problem is that they look and perform as well (or, should I say, as bad) as machine wound armatures. On the dyno and in the track. In fact, they are only as fast as my standard (Orion and Peak) 12x1 motors. This is sad for an aftermarket product that's supposed to outperform the "stock" manufacturer armatures... Thanks for nothing Team Br00d
I know this sounds dumb, but are you sure you assembled the motor correctly? Like is you timing way off or something. Also, the arms are all pretty close to the same length, so I find it hard to believe that the arm settled so low that the brushes don't make full contact with the comm.
And be sure you shimmed it correctly. Sounds like you have way too much shims on the top of the comm, pressing the arm downwards, and preventing the enbell from fully seating into the can.

You bought them from you LHS? You should contact brood directly. They are good guys and will help you get your problem solved.
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If you can't get a V2 motor to turn faster lap times with a 8x2 br00d arm in it than a 12x1 epoxy balanced Orion/Peak arm - You are doing something horribly wrong in the tuning &/or gearing department.

How about buying a 12x1 V2 motor from peak/orion, then buy a complete 12x1 V2 motor (Onroad Asphalt - Tuned Specifically for Asphalt Touring Car Racing) from br00d then go and re-test......


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Old 02-06-2006, 02:31 AM   #2459
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Yes, the motor was assembled correctly. I set the timing with a Jet Racing timing jig, which, I think, is pretty accurate. I tried 10, 12 and 14 degrees of timing. I think an 8x2 motor should be set at 12 degrees approximately. To shim the arm, I let it sit in the magnetic field of the can and add shims in the front and the rear, so as to take away the play, not to change the position of the armature. I'm sure this is the right way. After breaking in the brushes for a few minutes, you could clearly see, on the arm and on the brushes, that part of the brush did not contact the com. Anyway, there's no reason to argue this, as the first arm was finally measured and was considerably sorter than the original V2 arm.

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I don't doubt Team Br00d know how to build motors. They certainly do. But, maybe, the motors they build, might not be all of the same standards. The fact they have won so many championships, doesn't guarrantee that when I order a motor / armature, I'll get a good one. I think this thread is for everybody and every opinion.
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I recently got 2 Team Br00d armatures, 8x2, standard, for V2, asphalt, touring cars. One of them was 2mm shorter than the original V2 armature. When I aligned it in the magnetic field in the can, it settled far from the endbell, so only part of the brushes contacted the commutator. Clearly, this was not meant to be a V2 armature. The shop was kind enough to change it for a new V2 armature, even though they claimmed that YOU said all armatures are the same and they fit all motors! That's weird, as in your site you divide them into different categories... This time, size was right, so both armatures fit properly inside the can. The problem is that they look and perform as well (or, should I say, as bad) as machine wound armatures. On the dyno and in the track. In fact, they are only as fast as my standard (Orion and Peak) 12x1 motors. This is sad for an aftermarket product that's supposed to outperform the "stock" manufacturer armatures... Thanks for nothing Team Br00d
EddieO is all about customer service. like in the posts above I'm sure if you send him a email he will take care of the problem and then some....

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