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Old 12-10-2005, 02:05 PM   #2071
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ROTFL, just because there is a 19T spec class they are not allowed to make a 19T that does not comply with it?

There are more classes and tracks than just yours, get over it.

We only require a 19x1 at 24degrees of timing, take a wild guess what I am running
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Old 12-10-2005, 02:10 PM   #2072
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just check roar rules and they clearly state that the wire must be 19 gauge. but what it doesnt say is that the arms can't be handwound. but if you read the rules they give the impression that the arms should be machine wound. there was talk on another board of tuners making special 19t arms that dindn't meet the rules and I couldn't believe that a motor tuner would do such a thing. well I guess i was wrong
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Old 12-10-2005, 02:13 PM   #2073
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ROTFL, just because there is a 19T spec class they are not allowed to make a 19T that does not comply with it?

There are more classes and tracks than just yours, get over it.

We only require a 19x1 at 24degrees of timing, take a wild guess what I am running

that's not right dude. yes you found a grey area in your tracks rules. but I bet if they knew your were running it they would change the rules.
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Old 12-10-2005, 02:24 PM   #2074
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Old 12-10-2005, 02:48 PM   #2075
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that's not right dude. yes you found a grey area in your tracks rules. but I bet if they knew your were running it they would change the rules.
Grey area?

It's allowed period, nothing grey about it.
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Old 12-10-2005, 06:51 PM   #2076
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There is NOTHING about offering that wind of a motor that makes them cheaters.

You can order ANY motor you want! Say I wanted a 23 turn. I can get it. Say I wanted at 17 turn, I can get it. Say I wanted a 19 turn. I can get it. They are in NO way pushing for anyone to cheat.

The point is, that basically it comes down to the particular track you are racing at to determine what is legal and what isn't. At my local track, for instance, they allow anyone to run the "Illegal" Binary Stock motor (quad mag stocker). It is CLEARLY not legal: 4 mags, Epoxy balance.... Breaks two rules. But we run it and nobody complains. They sell them on the shelf.
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Old 12-10-2005, 07:28 PM   #2077
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before i go off the deep end!!!! i'll give you all a chance to explain why in the hell do you find a need to produce a handwound 18.5 gauge armature? this just does not sit well with me..it appears that you are opening a door that should remain closed. i'm very thankful that the oval heads in florida only use ultra bird motors for this very reason! this looks like a "cheater" arm from my house? what market in the U S allows 18.5 gauge wire instead of the legal 19 gauge? thanks bill

Maybe you should get one!!
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Old 12-10-2005, 09:56 PM   #2078
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Guess what? Not all tracks run roar rules, our rules are any 19t motor. Period.

Later,Randy
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Old 12-10-2005, 11:04 PM   #2079
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Talking 19t

I just want to offer my 2 cents. that WE the racer's in several of the clubs that I race at have different rules at each track .I like this because I can run a spec 19t class and then the next day run a OPEN 19 turn no limit class that allows people to run any 19 turn mod,spec,custom mod and hybryd types. but I would not run the modified 19 in a spec class ever.

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PS If you want to run a spec class then race at a spec class track .and if you want to run in a open class track then race a open class track...
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Right.

And there is certainly nothing wrong with running 19t 18.5 gauge armature in open mod.

The arm is not indended as a SPEC arm replacement.
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Guess what? Not all tracks run roar rules, our rules are any 19t motor. Period.

Later,Randy
I think that's part of the problem with racing RC today,there too many tracks going by too many different sets of rules,the worst being making their own.
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Old 12-11-2005, 05:41 AM   #2082
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Any news on NC race yet?
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Old 12-11-2005, 06:32 AM   #2083
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Right.

And there is certainly nothing wrong with running 19t 18.5 gauge armature in open mod.

The arm is not indended as a SPEC arm replacement.
not buying into this theroy. if the it was like a D5 or a TI arm then ok but it's a C2 arm. call it what you want I know what I call it.
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Old 12-11-2005, 09:14 AM   #2084
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When you own a business, you give the customer what they want. When a customer wants a special wind, it's Eddie's and Peter's desire to give them the absolute best armature available. It's not br00ds responsibility to make sure their customers are complying with this rule or that rule, it's the customers. If a customer is using a special wound arm to cheat with, then it is them that will suffer the consequences and ridicule. Why bash a company that's only doing what their customers ask of them ?? Obviously some people don't understand the concept of business.
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Old 12-11-2005, 09:20 AM   #2085
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hey guys

bought my first brood mod. motor

10X1 that i am gonna use in 12th scale and possible mod touring

does anyone have any pics of there brood motor mounted in both the 10th and 12th scale looking for some ways to keep the wire going to the motor with a neat and clean solder job (it is the V2 version)

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