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Old 01-28-2006, 10:49 AM   #1606
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If your looking that Direction, look at the ICE.

As far as discharging, talk to your battery matcher. I've seen all sorts of opinions on 30 amp discharging. Go with what your battery matcher/source tells you.

I'll only be using my 030 after I get my upgrade from Axxis and clip some wires so it only discharges at 20 amps.
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Old 01-28-2006, 08:22 PM   #1607
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Is there any charger that charges at atleast 6.0 amps, and discharges at 30 amps? I would like something like that if it was availabe, just all in one, more convienient. But I will probably be purchasing the novak smart tray, and that sintech looks good.
I have the integy 16x8v6 great charger so far bought off a fellow member discharges at 30 can charge up to 7 i believe and has phase charging.
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Old 01-30-2006, 06:14 PM   #1608
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Im thinking of just purchasing the DuraTrax IntelliPeak AC/DC Deluxe Pulse Charger because of the low price and the fact that it charges at 6.0 amps which is just what i want, and also purchasing the INDI Zero-Thirty 030 Discharge Board 30A ... would this be a good idea for IB3800's??
I have this exact set up, the only problem is the 030 discharges to 0 and from what I hear IB3800s dont like to be discharged that low. Axxis is suppose to be coming out with a kit that limits the tray to discharging to .9 per cell but so far it is only vapor ware.
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Old 01-30-2006, 06:58 PM   #1609
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I have this exact set up, the only problem is the 030 discharges to 0 and from what I hear IB3800s dont like to be discharged that low. Axxis is suppose to be coming out with a kit that limits the tray to discharging to .9 per cell but so far it is only vapor ware.
From what I read on fusionbatteries.com is that you can deep discharge them for stock racing, but not deadshort, and the 030 says it deep discharges. Is deadshorting just mean taking to 0?
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Dead shorting is taking the batteries beneath 0 volts.
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Old 01-30-2006, 11:55 PM   #1611
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Dead shorting is taking the batteries beneath 0 volts.
not if you dead short them as individual cells, then they can only go to 0, when you dead sort batteries as a pack, then you can get voltage reversion......
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Old 01-31-2006, 11:28 AM   #1612
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Do not dead short 3800's and for that matter I don't recommend going below.9 per cell. The cells perform very well without doing anything more than equalizing at .9 ea. 3800's have stupid power as is.
I have tried several different techniques with 3800's and the best thing for most people is to discharge the pack to 5.4 and then use a Novak smart tray or maybe a 0-30 with the conversion when they come out. I find that if you tray them to long it kills the cell. I believe most matchers will tell you the same thing. I'm sure you may here other things, but believe me better safe than sorry! 3800's are a great battery don't worry about the trick of the week.

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Old 01-31-2006, 02:29 PM   #1613
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I am seriously considering just getting another ICE and discharging the cells to 5.4v at 10amps that or get the Much More Individual Cell discharger that discharges each cell at 30amps to .9v.
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I'm confused now I dont know what to get. A discharger that has adjustable cutoff + a Novak equalizer + a charger.. thats a little too much money. is there a discharger that can just bring my cells down to .9 each and discharge at 30 amps? then i just buy a charger that can charge at 6 amps.. that sounds more afordable.
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Currently there is no discharger on the market that discharges at 30amps and brings down your cells to .9v. The Much More CTX-D Individual Cell Discharger is suppose to do this but it will be $199 and is just arriving in stores. The other notes is that it discharges at a 30 amp pulse rate not a straight 30 amps.
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Old 01-31-2006, 09:19 PM   #1616
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You could get a Turbo 35bl or GFX. It can charge at 6amps and discharge at 30amps down to .9v per cell. The problem is you can't charge and discharge at the same time, and when you are racing you almost ALWAYS have a pack charging.
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I'm currently using a Duratrax ICE ($130) as my charger.

After a run I discharge my pack at 20A with an Integy Reactor 20 ($30).

Then I put the pack away for a week or two (until the next time I race).

When I am ready to use the pack again I put it on a Yokomo Rayspeed Exceed tray ($50) to equalize the cells... then charge 'em up. A Novak Smart Tray would be just as good here.

That seems to me like the best bang-for-the-buck battery routine.

Hope it's helpful,

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Old 02-01-2006, 12:06 AM   #1618
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I didnt know the Reactor 20 discharged cells to .9v then after reading your post I found this article on integy.com http://integy.automated-shops.com/R20.JPG and this one http://integy.automated-shops.com/R21.JPG I had overlooked this line of dischargers and really wish I would have considered them before plunking down my $200 on the Much More CTX-D. I am guessing the Reactor 30 does the same thing except at 30 amps instead of 20.
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You guessed right, brutha
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Wow thanks Bob the reactor looks like a nice discharger at a resonable price! Now only if my local shop had it for this race weekend, anyways im gonna put an order in for it then get probably the ICE or something eles that can charge the way I want. Thanks, I had seen the reactor before but didn't know how low it charged but this would be perfect!
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