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Old 12-15-2005, 10:48 AM   #1546
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Just recieved Aaron's 3800's this week and will run them this weekend. It's hard to believe batteries have advanced so much in a short time. As with all our Fusion packs I'm sure they are going to RIP!
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Just received my new Fusion IB3800s
Great numbers
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Just received my new Fusion IB3800s
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Thanks Judy

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Yes, same here...The IB's look fantastic!!! Keep up the great work Fusion!!!!
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What are the Fushion IB3800 packs discharged at? 30 or 35A? Thanks.
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What are the Fushion IB3800 packs discharged at? 30 or 35A? Thanks.
30amps
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Hi all,

Fusions did the job for me this weekend. 3 month old gp3700's TQ and 1st A main 12th scale stock, 2nd qualifier and 1st A main in 12th scale 19T in the NorthWest Carpet champs we had this weekend. I'm still putting 4400Mah into these cells when I charge.

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Old 12-19-2005, 11:07 AM   #1552
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Crimson,
If you still like those 3700's wait til you try the 3800's. My son ran his this weekend for the first time in T/C and all I can say is WOW! The power of the 3800's over his 3700's was very surprising. He dropped 3 tenths a lap with the 3800's. I knew they were good the first time he pulled the throttle. He made a lap and then just stopped and said these batteries are stupid fast LOL! We had to regear the car with 3800's. What work with 3700's burned the brushes with 3800's. Obviously a major change in voltage! He managed a 2nd place finish in the 19T A-Main and with a better setup will be a force with this much power.
Fusion continues to provide their customers the best batteries available.
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Old 12-19-2005, 01:17 PM   #1553
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I ran my new IB300's for the first time this weekend. The extra voltage let me drop two teeth on the pinion and picked up a couple of tenth per lap running 19 turn TC oval. Killer cells!!!! Keep up the good work
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THEY DISCHARGE AT 30AMP, BUT THEY ALSO STOP THE DISCHARGE AT .85 AND NOT .90, I ALWAYS ASK MYSELF WHY THEY DO THAT, CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN.
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THEY DISCHARGE AT 30AMP, BUT THEY ALSO STOP THE DISCHARGE AT .85 AND NOT .90, I ALWAYS ASK MYSELF WHY THEY DO THAT, CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN.
I don't believe that they are anymore. The 3800s that I have are listed as .90 cutoff on the cells.

As for why they did it, you will have to wait for John Malin to come on and say. He gave me an explanation at Vegas, but for the life of me I can't remember exactly what he said.
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discharge was .95 now for ibs is .90 the voltage is more relible at .95 on gps .90 for ibs
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The cutoff voltage can be used for good or evil purposes. Fusion uses the power of cutoff voltage for good.

No one every races a pack down to 0.85, 0.90 or even 0.95v on the track. A battery dumped to 6.00v (1.00 v per cell) is REALLY SLOW on the track.

In an ideal world we would cut off voltage reading at 5min (300 sec) and have a voltage cut off at 1.00v. This would make cells have crazy high voltage numbers and really poor run time numbers but it would gave you a very good representation of what the batteries would do in the track.

However, it would be hard to sell batteries with numbers this funky. This is an instance of where marketing and consumer expectations get in the way of getting meaningful information. Matchers get a lot of pressure to conform to the "industry standards".
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The cutoff voltage can be used for good or evil purposes. Fusion uses the power of cutoff voltage for good.

No one every races a pack down to 0.85, 0.90 or even 0.95v on the track. A battery dumped to 6.00v (1.00 v per cell) is REALLY SLOW on the track.

In an ideal world we would cut off voltage reading at 5min (300 sec) and have a voltage cut off at 1.00v. This would make cells have crazy high voltage numbers and really poor run time numbers but it would gave you a very good representation of what the batteries would do in the track.

However, it would be hard to sell batteries with numbers this funky. This is an instance of where marketing and consumer expectations get in the way of getting meaningful information. Matchers get a lot of pressure to conform to the "industry standards".
Didn't Reedy do something like that with the RealTimes? I think the voltage was averaged over the first 300sec, and then runtime was until the cutoff. Was good for "inflating" numbers, as the average voltage was only over the 300sec, and not the full discharge curve.
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The cutoff voltage can be used for good or evil purposes. Fusion uses the power of cutoff voltage for good.

No one every races a pack down to 0.85, 0.90 or even 0.95v on the track. A battery dumped to 6.00v (1.00 v per cell) is REALLY SLOW on the track.

In an ideal world we would cut off voltage reading at 5min (300 sec) and have a voltage cut off at 1.00v. This would make cells have crazy high voltage numbers and really poor run time numbers but it would gave you a very good representation of what the batteries would do in the track.

However, it would be hard to sell batteries with numbers this funky. This is an instance of where marketing and consumer expectations get in the way of getting meaningful information. Matchers get a lot of pressure to conform to the "industry standards".
Well put Adrian, could not of said it better myself.

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Guys if you look back in this thread about 35 pages somewhere in there I tried to explain the reasons for matching to 0.95. It was done in an effort to get the best matches on the cells. Not for bigger or smaller numbers on labels. Fusion has always prided themselves on making the best product they know how. That was just one of the processes.

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