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Old 12-18-2019, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Jonnydb
Where I can find a sensor board for the one?
@teamscreamracing website In the comments box for your PayPal transaction give an accurate description of what you’re ordering i.e. “The 1” or not, V1, V2, or V3. If he has the one you need in stock, John will get that right out to you. He’s VERY good at doing that. Chris S.
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Old 12-27-2019, 08:12 AM
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It has been a long time since running an offroad car... But the new 2wd buggy is in and I am going to go run an indoor offroad high bite clay track. I am going to be using a 17.5 v2 with a 4 line rotor. The motor was originally tuned for 1/12, and the timing is set at 44*. Just looking for a starting point for the buggy. Thanks!
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Old 12-27-2019, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by trilerian
It has been a long time since running an offroad car... But the new 2wd buggy is in and I am going to go run an indoor offroad high bite clay track. I am going to be using a 17.5 v2 with a 4 line rotor. The motor was originally tuned for 1/12, and the timing is set at 44*. Just looking for a starting point for the buggy. Thanks!
Bump timing to 48deg. (Motorlizer)Gear to what works for ya. 155-160 for temps. Find out what others with the same car are geared and drop two pinions as a starting point. Great motors! Enjoy
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Old 01-05-2020, 05:42 PM
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Getting ready for onroad season and have a v2 17.5 timing is at 44 from guy I bought it from is this right ?
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Old 01-05-2020, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by RsDrake77
Getting ready for onroad season and have a v2 17.5 timing is at 44 from guy I bought it from is this right ?
Depends on what class it was built for. 44* is about 4* soft if it’s going to be used for TC
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Old 01-15-2020, 02:24 PM
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I have 3 Team Scream motor that I'm running in Tlr Sct 22 on a very small clay oval track. For Christmas I bought myself a Fantom 3 rotor checker. It check condition of motors . This is what I found.
Timing set with motolizer
Rotor was average of + and -
Motor 1 Gen 1. 17.5 @ 53 1617
Motor 2 Gen 2 17.5. 48. 1550
Motor 3. Gen 2. 13.5. 48 1620

Question do you think that I'm losing performance on motor 2 or is it in a acceptable range? Do you see anything to where I could see some advantage?

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Old 01-15-2020, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by No_Problem
I have 3 Team Scream motor that I'm running in Tlr Sct 22 on a very small clay oval track. For Christmas I bought myself a Fantom 3 rotor checker. It check condition of motors . This is what I found.
Timing set with motolizer
Rotor was average of + and -
Motor 1 Gen 1. 17.5 @ 53 1617
Motor 2 Gen 2 17.5. 48. 1550
Motor 3. Gen 2. 13.5. 48 1620

Question do you think that I'm losing performance on motor 2 or is it in a acceptable range? Do you see anything to where I could see some advantage?

Thanks
Rotor seems a a bit soft. You didn’t say whether or not these were “The 1’s” or not. You could try 50-51* of timing and dropping a pinion or 2, but I think I would order a fresh 4 line rotor and back the timing up to 46* and go up 1 pinion. Fan? Watch temps
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Old 01-16-2020, 03:04 AM
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There are some instances where a softer rotor works better in some of the older motors. The older stator didn't create the rpm as the v3 does and going to the softer rotor worked better. Just watch temps and bottom end. Too soft and temps will sky rocket and bottom end will drop off. You could swap rotors and try it with the one from the 13.5 and see if you feel a difference.
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Thanks for the quick reply
First off the 13.5 is the one. Gen2 17.5 I don't know because I bought used. Its Motolizer numbers are deviation of .2 asymmetry 1. Yes I'm running a fan. On the Gen 2 17.5 after a 4 min heat or main it comes off at 100-110. If I go up 1 tooth or a little on timing it gets hot. My thought for this weekend is to switch rotor from 13.5 to see if I can gain some bottom end.
Next I'll be ordering a new 4 line rotor to test strength and what it does to the motor.

I've got another question if I where to add ceramic bearing would there be a performance gain for me?

Next question stainless screws. I know they add rpm but do they add torque or any efficiency

Thanks again.
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Old 01-16-2020, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by No_Problem
Thanks for the quick reply
First off the 13.5 is the one. Gen2 17.5 I don't know because I bought used. Its Motolizer numbers are deviation of .2 asymmetry 1. Yes I'm running a fan. On the Gen 2 17.5 after a 4 min heat or main it comes off at 100-110. If I go up 1 tooth or a little on timing it gets hot. My thought for this weekend is to switch rotor from 13.5 to see if I can gain some bottom end.
Next I'll be ordering a new 4 line rotor to test strength and what it does to the motor.

I've got another question if I where to add ceramic bearing would there be a performance gain for me?

Next question stainless screws. I know they add rpm but do they add torque or any efficiency

Thanks again.
when you say it gets hot going up 1 tooth.. Is it 120* or more? Does the bottom end feel soft or fade during the race?

The full ceramic I have tested just gained in noise..lol.. I saw no performance jump. The hybrid ones did give a 100 more rpm.

The SS fasteners also give a RPM gain, but it will drop some torque . on the motolyser it will show an increase in RPM and KV and less amps.. But on a Dyno under load the torque drops. If you have a stator and rotor combo that is all bottom end and no top, then the fasteners may be a help.
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When ask how hot not for sure. We have to Marshall after we race. Also with the fan it's hard to get down by the rotor. But endbell got so hot it would burnt you and my lap times went down. I just geared back down for the main and the laps went back .2-.3 a lap and alot cooler motor.
Same for timing. For heat ran good so I would turn endbell just a little marking where a was. Run second heat to see if I would gain anything. It lost bottom end and started to fade by end of heat so turn back for the main.

Thanks for your honest answers on the Gen 2 17.5 I've got stainless screws added. It added 800-900 rpms and dropped my amps. I thought it was a win by dropping the amps.

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Old 01-24-2020, 11:30 AM
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Ive got a 17.5, V2 motor that is the "1" version. Its been an excellent motor and I'm interested in refreshing it. I run it in 1/12 blinky. What would you recommend for replacing in the motor? I'm club racing it, so I don't think purchasing the latest version is really necessary. The motor still performs well, but I expect it's not as good as when I purchased it when it came out. Thanks
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Old 01-24-2020, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by gmintimidator
Ive got a 17.5, V2 motor that is the "1" version. Its been an excellent motor and I'm interested in refreshing it. I run it in 1/12 blinky. What would you recommend for replacing in the motor? I'm club racing it, so I don't think purchasing the latest version is really necessary. The motor still performs well, but I expect it's not as good as when I purchased it when it came out. Thanks
As long as the motor has never been over cooked you should only need to replace the bearings. I would like sg1 suggestion on the ceramic bearings to use. I have a v2 17.5 The 1 as well, used in 1/12 and TC, after more than a year, the rotor still reads 1700 on a Gauss meter and they are still quite good motors. Just a bit noisier now cause I need new bearings.
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Results from an impromptu gathering of Mod Sprints at Cooper’s RC. As always the 5.5 and 8500 stick didn’t let me down.
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Originally Posted by gazza
Results from an impromptu gathering of Mod Sprints at Cooper’s RC. As always the 5.5 and 8500 stick didn’t let me down.
GREAT RUN!! TSR all the way! Chris S.
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