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Old 07-27-2017, 08:12 AM
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Going to be playing around with VTA again after a couple of years off. I was using the Novak Boss motor at the time. Curious to what guys are gearing and timing these motors at in that class. I'm using a Tamita 419 that has been sitting on the shelf for awhile now. Also with the new roar motor rules I'm excited to see what John the mad scientist is coming up with next. He sets the standards of innovation from what I can see.
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Old 07-27-2017, 09:11 AM
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in case anyone is looking for a The One 17.5 new can i have one i'm looking to put up for sale that i've been running in my 12th scale. throwing it out there here first just in case anyone is interested
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Old 07-27-2017, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Josh-n-ya
Going to be playing around with VTA again after a couple of years off. I was using the Novak Boss motor at the time. Curious to what guys are gearing and timing these motors at in that class.
I had my motor Dyno tuned and 44 timing was the sweet spot. We have a small indoor carpet track and I typically gear around 3.84 and come off in the 140 range with no fade at the end of the run. Typically put ~1600MAH back into the battery after a 6 min heat.
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Old 07-27-2017, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by RollingChicane2
I had my motor Dyno tuned and 44 timing was the sweet spot. We have a small indoor carpet track and I typically gear around 3.84 and come off in the 140 range with no fade at the end of the run. Typically put ~1600MAH back into the battery after a 6 min heat.
Thanks. I forgot to mention it will be used on very large outdoor tracks. I'm thinking maybe in the 3.5 or even lower range.
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Old 07-27-2017, 09:41 AM
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Thx - is there any risk in remaining like his in an off-road buggy that has a lot of bounces jumps and such? Any need for maintenance? Thx
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They typically get some movement as wires stretch when things get warm.
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Old 07-27-2017, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Josh-n-ya
Thanks. I forgot to mention it will be used on very large outdoor tracks. I'm thinking maybe in the 3.5 or even lower range.
I was gonna guess 3.3 to 3.5 at 44*
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Old 07-27-2017, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by JAE
Thx - is there any risk in remaining like his in an off-road buggy that has a lot of bounces jumps and such? Any need for maintenance? Thx
You could always put a dab of JBWeld on it
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Old 08-01-2017, 09:37 AM
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so.. i raced this past weekend.. 17.5 stock buggy.. i have a motor analyzer, and i usually run a tekin gen3. i know.. i have been down on power for some time. however, this weekend a good friend of mine, let me use his team scream 17.5 the one, straight out of his Touring car.. didnt change anything timing wise. and wow.. i am a believer.. i always thought.. why are others so much faster..

My tekin, on the analyzer, with a new charged battery.. 8.4v. here is the numbers..
26-27k RPM, 7.0 amp draw. Timing shows 45 on the analyzer, but 60 on the can.

in the race, the car lost power and faded around 3.5-4 mins into the race. temps are up in the 170 range. started missing jumps due to not making the power anymore.

This Team Scream on the analyzer, with same battery, recharged, 8.4v, here are the numbers.
26-27k RPM, 3.8 amp draw. Timing shows 45 on the analyzer, and 45 on the can.

In the race, Same gearing, no fade, temps werent bad, this motor made all the jumps the whole race.. felt as good on the last lap as it did on the first lap.

This is a non biased reveiw. i am sold on the idea. i couldnt beleive it honestly. i was shocked when i saw the amp draw numbers. i put the motor on the analyzer, before i put it in the car.. just to get a baseline.. see what it was at.. obviously.. the higher amp draw, the faster.. but.. this thing was pulling same numbers, at half the amp draw. hence, cooler, and longer run without fade..

I am about to order one..
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Any recommendation for how to remove/install bearings into the motor?
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Old 08-03-2017, 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by jakeb
Any recommendation for how to remove/install bearings into the motor?
Well....

For the can side I just tap them out. Remove the can, Turn it upside down and put it on the table and tap it out.

For the sensor side, remove the sensor board from the endbell. Then use the 3 flat head screws as a stand for the sensor board. What I mean is, install them on the opposite side they would normally go into then place the flatheads onto the table. You can then tap the bearing straight out. You only need to put the screws in a turn.

Hope this helps

If not I can post pics later tonight.
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Originally Posted by sg1
Well....

For the can side I just tap them out. Remove the can, Turn it upside down and put it on the table and tap it out.

For the sensor side, remove the sensor board from the endbell. Then use the 3 flat head screws as a stand for the sensor board. What I mean is, install them on the opposite side they would normally go into then place the flatheads onto the table. You can then tap the bearing straight out. You only need to put the screws in a turn.

Hope this helps

If not I can post pics later tonight.
Great tip for the sensor side. I just did it. Thx
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Old 08-08-2017, 08:11 AM
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Hey Everyone,

I just wanted to let everyone know, if you ordered a motor within the last few days or plan on ordering one this week it won't ship till next week.

John is out of town and will be back Monday.

If anyone needs anything let me know and I'll do my best to help out.

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Have a t4 2017 in usgt with a plain jane 21.5 tsr,motor is nice and its fast,looking for fdr ideas to get the most from it.the spur is a 96 with a 40 pinion timing is a around 50-55 on the can,never check with a tester.The car is run on black crc and the track is 80x 40.Was thinking of dropping the timing and adding more pinion to help control the punch of the motor in the in field,a friend of mine is set up like this and it seems to work great for him.thanks for all the help guys,happy racing

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Old 08-08-2017, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by X marksthespot
Have a t4 2017 in usgt with a plain jane 21.5 tsr,motor is nice and its fast,looking for fdr ideas to get the most from it.the spur is a 96 with a 40 pinion timing is a around 50-55 on the can,never check with a tester.The car is run on black crc and the track is 80x 40.Was thinking of dropping the timing and adding more pinion to help control the punch of the motor in the in field,a friend of mine is set up like this and it seems to work great for him.thanks for all the help guys,happy racing
That sounds like alot of timing.
We typically start about 46 or 47* on the motolyser (about 1/2 or 1 line past 40* on can) with a 3.7's FDR on a 88x40 black carpet track that is flowing.

With a fan temps are 130's
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Originally Posted by sg1
That sounds like alot of timing.
We typically start about 46 or 47* on the motolyser (about 1/2 or 1 line past 40* on can) with a 3.7's FDR on a 88x40 black carpet track that is flowing.

With a fan temps are 130's
Thanks sg1,will give it a try
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