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Old 08-30-2017, 08:18 AM
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Fantom says September 15 in the description.
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Old 08-30-2017, 03:26 PM
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Hmm, I see a new thing called "Tour Spec" - same price as the "Team" for the V3 17.5s on the website. Might need some clarification there but I guess who cares because I don't see why I'd get anything but the full optioned tuned to the max Fantom - I mean that's the whole point. Bit of a closeout discount on the V2 builds which might be worthwhile. Fantom looks to provide the most complete fully tuned option of everything I've looked at so far - I don't like that all the other brands are not putting the non-magnetic hardware in their top builds. It's like $20USD to upgrade the Trinity for example - for 6 screws.
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Old 08-31-2017, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by DavidNERODease
Hmm, I see a new thing called "Tour Spec" - same price as the "Team" for the V3 17.5s on the website. Might need some clarification there but I guess who cares because I don't see why I'd get anything but the full optioned tuned to the max Fantom - I mean that's the whole point. Bit of a closeout discount on the V2 builds which might be worthwhile. Fantom looks to provide the most complete fully tuned option of everything I've looked at so far - I don't like that all the other brands are not putting the non-magnetic hardware in their top builds. It's like $20USD to upgrade the Trinity for example - for 6 screws.
The hardware is a tuning option... So if its magnetic it provides more torque, if its not it provides more rpm.

tour is an oval governing like roar for us.
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Old 08-31-2017, 10:30 AM
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Wouldn't the steel hardware just affect the asymmetry and reduce overall performance?
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Old 08-31-2017, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by DavidNERODease
Wouldn't the steel hardware just affect the asymmetry and reduce overall performance?
The affect on asymmetry from my testing is not affected but the hardware, but more affected by the adjustment of timing. But were also talking about running the motor back to back with no changes the asymmetry changes a point... (which is pretty normal for all brands of motors I have tested) In more depth what the steel vs aluminum hardware does for fantom is a couple things.

The steel hardware provides more torque and less rpm(it was what I prefered in 12th scale, as it was actually faster for me). Additionally the steel hardware is heavier, i do not remember the exact amount, but its like 5 or 6 grams difference between all of the screws and hardware, maybe more.

The aluminum hardware provides more rpm, but at the expense of some torque. (this is what i preferred in TC). Additionally it is lighter.
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Old 08-31-2017, 11:29 AM
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For the Fantom motor tuning options, what is considered a short-std length (carpet onroad) track vs. a std-long track? Thanks in advance!
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Old 08-31-2017, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by thecaptain
The affect on asymmetry from my testing is not affected but the hardware, but more affected by the adjustment of timing. But were also talking about running the motor back to back with no changes the asymmetry changes a point... (which is pretty normal for all brands of motors I have tested) In more depth what the steel vs aluminum hardware does for fantom is a couple things.

The steel hardware provides more torque and less rpm(it was what I prefered in 12th scale, as it was actually faster for me). Additionally the steel hardware is heavier, i do not remember the exact amount, but its like 5 or 6 grams difference between all of the screws and hardware, maybe more.

The aluminum hardware provides more rpm, but at the expense of some torque. (this is what i preferred in TC). Additionally it is lighter.
I just ordered this:
NEW 17.5 Turn v3R / v3T FR-1 TEAM WORKS PLUS MOTOR
17.5 Turn v3R / v3T FR-1 Team Works Plus Motor
Stator Option: V3R (it’s for all 12th scale)
Set Motor Timing: Yes – to our recommend setting
Race Application: 1/12th on-road short to std. track

I thought I read somewhere that both steel and aluminum hardware is included which might be useful on my very tight track.
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I'm sure you will not be disappointed! Can't wait to get mine!
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Originally Posted by DavidNERODease
I thought I read somewhere that both steel and aluminum hardware is included which might be useful on my very tight track.
When I've ordered fantom motors with upgrades, they always have come with the standard parts also. Bearings, screws shims etc.

I guess if they didn't, fantom would end up with a big pile of standard bits to dispose of!
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Noooooo... first shipment of V3s sold out already! So mine is on back order.
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Holy cow...$150 motors are the norm now? No wonder we have so few new racers.
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Originally Posted by SpeedySST
Holy cow...$150 motors are the norm now? No wonder we have so few new racers.
The normal motor is 99 i believe. There are plently of cheaper motors available on the market(in the 50 range or maybe cheaper), but people know you get what you pay for.
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Old 08-31-2017, 08:32 PM
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I only buy new motors once a decade so the price is justified for me.
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Old 08-31-2017, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by DavidNERODease
I only buy new motors once a decade so the price is justified for me.
Then how do you have the latest TSR while waiting for your v3 Fantom?
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