DARKSIDE MOTORSPORTS - "We Are What's Next"
09-09-2007, 05:42 PM
#811
Steve, il be at the halloween race as well.
Joe, il have to dig though some junk and find a dialed setup for ya...haha... or if you have some motivation i got some ideas to work on
Bill, yea id say the combo has proven pretty decent in the past.
Joe, il have to dig though some junk and find a dialed setup for ya...haha... or if you have some motivation i got some ideas to work on
Bill, yea id say the combo has proven pretty decent in the past.
09-09-2007, 06:12 PM
#812
Mike....you point the direction and I'll try it!!! Going to really work on the 19 turn 1/12th this season.....
09-10-2007, 11:02 PM
#813
Well the Mx2 worked great again for me this past weekend. We finally got a full field of 8 cars in 1/12th and man was it interesting trying to get around traffic. The first run the car was unpredictable for the first 2 mins of the heat...I think this was because the diff rings shifted a bit and hadn't re-broken in. The D-ring fits a bit on the loose side on the hub. Anyway once that went away the car was dialed. Easily the fastest on the track but my luck with traffic just wasn't as good as the 2 other good drivers racing that day so I ended up finishing in 3rd. At one point lap traffic and dazed turn marshalls had me in dead last and several laps down from the leaders. I was able to work my way back up to 3rd and only 1 lap down. I was quite frustrated right after the race but when some time had passed and I was able to reflect on how well I had actually done I am now pretty happy with my performance. I just can't see how you mainland guys run 8 cars on a track with 6ft lanes...it's tough on ours with 8 to 10 ft lanes. I can see if everyone was at about the same skill level or near enough where it could be done. But fortunately for use we have over half of our field as new 1/12th drivers and 3-4 more talking about getting into it. It can be both exciting and frustrating at the same time.
09-14-2007, 08:30 AM
#814
hey -E team fullthrottle drivers are realy liking the MX2
keep up the good work
call me sold another kit
keep up the good work
call me sold another kit
09-14-2007, 08:39 PM
#815
09-14-2007, 10:05 PM
#816
-E YGM
09-16-2007, 06:25 PM
#817
Hey Eric, drove my car this weekend............
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09-23-2007, 07:25 PM
#818
Ok, so who has put a brushless system in the Mx2?
Send Pictures, as I'm re-building the car for this year's carpet racing. Will probably run the "Silver" Chassis in stock brush, and "Black" in 19 Turn/4300 brushless.
I also have a 13.5, but will keep it in the box for a while.
Hey Darkside......Any news on rear motor pod??
Send Pictures, as I'm re-building the car for this year's carpet racing. Will probably run the "Silver" Chassis in stock brush, and "Black" in 19 Turn/4300 brushless.
I also have a 13.5, but will keep it in the box for a while.
Hey Darkside......Any news on rear motor pod??
09-23-2007, 07:42 PM
#820
We have been working on a few ideas, i ran my proto version again this weekend, and it seems to be working well, depending on how it handels at the first few big races im sure Eric will get the ball movig for updated parts....untill then the current mx2 works well in most cases.
09-23-2007, 07:57 PM
#821
Had my first weekend off since my wedding in May, so I went racing. Local HobbyTown was doing a parking lot race on some slick, really slick asphalt. The soda help some, if you managed to stay in the 3' swath around the track.
The night before I was racing at an indoor carpet track and took both my CRC 3.2 and MX2 for side by side comparision if you call it that. I went on to use the 3.2 for racing in Saturday because, well I was able to cram a NOVAK SS Speedo in it with a 5-cell reciever pack and a 13.5 motor. The difference between the MX2 and the 3.2 is well about 100grams lighter for the MX2. The 3.2 made great work of the corners, and I was able to match pace with 1st place. I had my 2 corner bobbles where the car just happened to hit a bump at the wrong point in the turn and spin out. I took second.
The MX2 with a black Co27 motor was just as fast lapwise, but not as fast in the infield. The stockers compared to a 13.5 brushless just seem to not have the out-of-the-corner-speed. Even MX2 designed for corner speed can not out drag in the corner exit againts a brushless setup.
Today, at the HobbyTown parking lot, I thought I should use my 3.2. The first heat I was leader and noticed some glitches the seemed to plague my whole family of cars I brought with me. The 2nd heat, I sat out and worked on the MX2. The SS would not spin the motor untill I nudged it. Knowing this, I went with my backup...the MX2. I added one .02 shims under the football and rear pivot balls compared to my carpet setup. Sauced the rear tires, cleaned the front tires, went to a green Wolf spring for center shock and loosened the diff for a 1' slipper action and didn't change the gear ratio form the night before. Even after wiping the tires I noticed some excess sauce, so I did 30 seconds of driving in 6' circles both directions to wick out that excess and remove the punch off the pack. The heat was 5min not 8min so I could afford it.
All said and done, the MX2 was 3 laps!! Faster than my 3.2 and I only had one shot at getting it right. Took the TQ with the 3.2 and blew that time away with MX2 for the win. Lesson learned, pick the right car for the job.
MODS to my MX2. Battery hold plate has been replaced with G10 piece that is narrower near where my battery bars poke up. I already happen to short one cell on the old carbon plate. The captured ball links were replaced with DuBro 4-40 heavy links. I used a pivot ball remover tool to pop the ball in and out of the link about 10 times to loosen up the link tiny bit then I popped in a polished derlin ball from RPM. These monster links are smaller in size and weigh less. I made thumb screws for the hold down plate. Used an AE thumbscrew kit, but used a 1" BH 4-40 screw instead of the 1/2" Set screw. I cut away an area beneeth servo-savor so I can I flat mounted my Futaba servo. Before screwing down the sever with the flat tabs, I added some BRP 1/16" thick servo tape to keep the servo still.
The night before I was racing at an indoor carpet track and took both my CRC 3.2 and MX2 for side by side comparision if you call it that. I went on to use the 3.2 for racing in Saturday because, well I was able to cram a NOVAK SS Speedo in it with a 5-cell reciever pack and a 13.5 motor. The difference between the MX2 and the 3.2 is well about 100grams lighter for the MX2. The 3.2 made great work of the corners, and I was able to match pace with 1st place. I had my 2 corner bobbles where the car just happened to hit a bump at the wrong point in the turn and spin out. I took second.
The MX2 with a black Co27 motor was just as fast lapwise, but not as fast in the infield. The stockers compared to a 13.5 brushless just seem to not have the out-of-the-corner-speed. Even MX2 designed for corner speed can not out drag in the corner exit againts a brushless setup.
Today, at the HobbyTown parking lot, I thought I should use my 3.2. The first heat I was leader and noticed some glitches the seemed to plague my whole family of cars I brought with me. The 2nd heat, I sat out and worked on the MX2. The SS would not spin the motor untill I nudged it. Knowing this, I went with my backup...the MX2. I added one .02 shims under the football and rear pivot balls compared to my carpet setup. Sauced the rear tires, cleaned the front tires, went to a green Wolf spring for center shock and loosened the diff for a 1' slipper action and didn't change the gear ratio form the night before. Even after wiping the tires I noticed some excess sauce, so I did 30 seconds of driving in 6' circles both directions to wick out that excess and remove the punch off the pack. The heat was 5min not 8min so I could afford it.
All said and done, the MX2 was 3 laps!! Faster than my 3.2 and I only had one shot at getting it right. Took the TQ with the 3.2 and blew that time away with MX2 for the win. Lesson learned, pick the right car for the job.
MODS to my MX2. Battery hold plate has been replaced with G10 piece that is narrower near where my battery bars poke up. I already happen to short one cell on the old carbon plate. The captured ball links were replaced with DuBro 4-40 heavy links. I used a pivot ball remover tool to pop the ball in and out of the link about 10 times to loosen up the link tiny bit then I popped in a polished derlin ball from RPM. These monster links are smaller in size and weigh less. I made thumb screws for the hold down plate. Used an AE thumbscrew kit, but used a 1" BH 4-40 screw instead of the 1/2" Set screw. I cut away an area beneeth servo-savor so I can I flat mounted my Futaba servo. Before screwing down the sever with the flat tabs, I added some BRP 1/16" thick servo tape to keep the servo still.
09-23-2007, 07:57 PM
#822
Server did a double post
But, I'll say it anyways, Great car Eric.
But, I'll say it anyways, Great car Eric.
Last edited by trailranger; 09-23-2007 at 08:00 PM. Reason: Double Post?
09-24-2007, 12:47 AM
#823
Well I had another 3rd place finish today due to being a bit under powered. The car handled great though. The 2nd qualifier was the best I've ever had it handling. I did learn something about it though that I hadn't noticed. My foam rubber piece was really compressed so while the battery was held in fine it didn't stop it from sliding side to side. The battery slots are about 2mm longer then my 3800mah cells. In the 2nd qualifier I replaced the foam piece with servo tape, put the batteries in and retweaked the car. It felt the most planted I've ever had it. In the main though the servo tape wasn't sticky anymore and I discovered a steering atv issue that I corrected which ended up giving me way more steering then I needed and it took most of the race for me to settle down and get used to it. So now I'm looking to make myself a fiberglass battery locater plate using the 2 stand off holes to the outside of the battery. I'm looking foward to seeing how much of an improvement it is next race! 
09-24-2007, 09:00 PM
#824
Guys,
It's great to hear the success that your are having with the Mx2 chassis. Even better to see everyone sharing set-up info. As Mike Haynes said, we have been and will continue to test new ideas on the chassis. As much as I'd like to release every part we run as soon as it is tested, I hope that you understand that I don't want to release something that I'm just not sure is going to work as well as possible. I'm not like X-ray and don't like the idea of a new chassis every 10 or so months.
There will be some new stuff out soon, that's for certain.
Good luck to Mike Haynes at the upcoming IIC Race this week in Las Vegas. I was originally signed up to go to race, but had to back out since a close friend of mine is getting married this weekend. (52 weekends in a year and he HAD to schedule it on one of the biggest race weekends on the calendar, talk about poor planning
)
-E
It's great to hear the success that your are having with the Mx2 chassis. Even better to see everyone sharing set-up info. As Mike Haynes said, we have been and will continue to test new ideas on the chassis. As much as I'd like to release every part we run as soon as it is tested, I hope that you understand that I don't want to release something that I'm just not sure is going to work as well as possible. I'm not like X-ray and don't like the idea of a new chassis every 10 or so months.
There will be some new stuff out soon, that's for certain.
Good luck to Mike Haynes at the upcoming IIC Race this week in Las Vegas. I was originally signed up to go to race, but had to back out since a close friend of mine is getting married this weekend. (52 weekends in a year and he HAD to schedule it on one of the biggest race weekends on the calendar, talk about poor planning
)-E
09-24-2007, 09:03 PM
#825
Had my first weekend off since my wedding in May, so I went racing. Local HobbyTown was doing a parking lot race on some slick, really slick asphalt. The soda help some, if you managed to stay in the 3' swath around the track.
The night before I was racing at an indoor carpet track and took both my CRC 3.2 and MX2 for side by side comparision if you call it that. I went on to use the 3.2 for racing in Saturday because, well I was able to cram a NOVAK SS Speedo in it with a 5-cell reciever pack and a 13.5 motor. The difference between the MX2 and the 3.2 is well about 100grams lighter for the MX2. The 3.2 made great work of the corners, and I was able to match pace with 1st place. I had my 2 corner bobbles where the car just happened to hit a bump at the wrong point in the turn and spin out. I took second.
The MX2 with a black Co27 motor was just as fast lapwise, but not as fast in the infield. The stockers compared to a 13.5 brushless just seem to not have the out-of-the-corner-speed. Even MX2 designed for corner speed can not out drag in the corner exit againts a brushless setup.
Today, at the HobbyTown parking lot, I thought I should use my 3.2. The first heat I was leader and noticed some glitches the seemed to plague my whole family of cars I brought with me. The 2nd heat, I sat out and worked on the MX2. The SS would not spin the motor untill I nudged it. Knowing this, I went with my backup...the MX2. I added one .02 shims under the football and rear pivot balls compared to my carpet setup. Sauced the rear tires, cleaned the front tires, went to a green Wolf spring for center shock and loosened the diff for a 1' slipper action and didn't change the gear ratio form the night before. Even after wiping the tires I noticed some excess sauce, so I did 30 seconds of driving in 6' circles both directions to wick out that excess and remove the punch off the pack. The heat was 5min not 8min so I could afford it.
All said and done, the MX2 was 3 laps!! Faster than my 3.2 and I only had one shot at getting it right. Took the TQ with the 3.2 and blew that time away with MX2 for the win. Lesson learned, pick the right car for the job.
MODS to my MX2. Battery hold plate has been replaced with G10 piece that is narrower near where my battery bars poke up. I already happen to short one cell on the old carbon plate. The captured ball links were replaced with DuBro 4-40 heavy links. I used a pivot ball remover tool to pop the ball in and out of the link about 10 times to loosen up the link tiny bit then I popped in a polished derlin ball from RPM. These monster links are smaller in size and weigh less. I made thumb screws for the hold down plate. Used an AE thumbscrew kit, but used a 1" BH 4-40 screw instead of the 1/2" Set screw. I cut away an area beneeth servo-savor so I can I flat mounted my Futaba servo. Before screwing down the sever with the flat tabs, I added some BRP 1/16" thick servo tape to keep the servo still.
The night before I was racing at an indoor carpet track and took both my CRC 3.2 and MX2 for side by side comparision if you call it that. I went on to use the 3.2 for racing in Saturday because, well I was able to cram a NOVAK SS Speedo in it with a 5-cell reciever pack and a 13.5 motor. The difference between the MX2 and the 3.2 is well about 100grams lighter for the MX2. The 3.2 made great work of the corners, and I was able to match pace with 1st place. I had my 2 corner bobbles where the car just happened to hit a bump at the wrong point in the turn and spin out. I took second.
The MX2 with a black Co27 motor was just as fast lapwise, but not as fast in the infield. The stockers compared to a 13.5 brushless just seem to not have the out-of-the-corner-speed. Even MX2 designed for corner speed can not out drag in the corner exit againts a brushless setup.
Today, at the HobbyTown parking lot, I thought I should use my 3.2. The first heat I was leader and noticed some glitches the seemed to plague my whole family of cars I brought with me. The 2nd heat, I sat out and worked on the MX2. The SS would not spin the motor untill I nudged it. Knowing this, I went with my backup...the MX2. I added one .02 shims under the football and rear pivot balls compared to my carpet setup. Sauced the rear tires, cleaned the front tires, went to a green Wolf spring for center shock and loosened the diff for a 1' slipper action and didn't change the gear ratio form the night before. Even after wiping the tires I noticed some excess sauce, so I did 30 seconds of driving in 6' circles both directions to wick out that excess and remove the punch off the pack. The heat was 5min not 8min so I could afford it.
All said and done, the MX2 was 3 laps!! Faster than my 3.2 and I only had one shot at getting it right. Took the TQ with the 3.2 and blew that time away with MX2 for the win. Lesson learned, pick the right car for the job.
MODS to my MX2. Battery hold plate has been replaced with G10 piece that is narrower near where my battery bars poke up. I already happen to short one cell on the old carbon plate. The captured ball links were replaced with DuBro 4-40 heavy links. I used a pivot ball remover tool to pop the ball in and out of the link about 10 times to loosen up the link tiny bit then I popped in a polished derlin ball from RPM. These monster links are smaller in size and weigh less. I made thumb screws for the hold down plate. Used an AE thumbscrew kit, but used a 1" BH 4-40 screw instead of the 1/2" Set screw. I cut away an area beneeth servo-savor so I can I flat mounted my Futaba servo. Before screwing down the sever with the flat tabs, I added some BRP 1/16" thick servo tape to keep the servo still.
-E
