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nougat 03-08-2009 10:26 AM

Batteries for 1/8 scale truggy?
 
Danny-

Thanks for the wealth of battery information you bring to this board. It is much appreciated.

I have ordered an RC8T with AE electric conversion kit and need to get some batteries. I will be running the MMM/2200kv combo. I already have an SMC 7.4v 24c 5200mah that I run in my Slash and I love it. I am wondering what the difference would be between running two of these 2S SMCs in series as opposed to running one of your new 4S softpacks that are coming out soon. Will there be a significant dropoff using two 2S in series? I would prefer 2x2S so I could use the batteries in my Slash and possibly an SC10 in my future. Thanks in advance for the info.

Danny/SMC 03-08-2009 02:10 PM

Glad to hear our packs are doing well in your Slash.

I don't see any issues with running 2 packs in series. Some don't want to go this route due to the chance of the packs not having the same capacity or having to buy 2 chargers or a Duo charger.

Also some think you need high C rate packs in this class and I understand the reasoning behind this as many have had issues with cycle life in this class. I personally think the poor cycle life is attributed to false C rate claims which seems to be common or packs built with low end materials to save on cost. I'm pretty confident our 24C , 28C and 40C packs will have good cycle life in this class.

LowBoost 03-09-2009 03:15 PM

Danny:

I know you have expressed lately about releasing hard case packs for Truggies, but I just found out that I need hard-cased battery packs to run on ROAR approved races.

Any plans on releasing a 4s-40C-5400mAh-14.8v hard-case, or you are still debating? I think it would be a hit if you release this, because everyone planning on racing these events needs them... and 14.8 would be great!

Danny/SMC 03-09-2009 03:25 PM

We do have a 4S/5400/40C+ hardcase pack in the works. We hope to have them available by the middle of April.

LowBoost 03-10-2009 01:21 PM

Thanks! My brand new RC8T (Electric Conversion) and all gear will sit in the storage toolbox, waiting for some batteries, so I can run. :nod:

Wanted to get a pack so I can run it for the first time this wee until you release the hardcasekend, but I don't want to spend money on a battery I will not use then...
Perhaps I can get a 4S/5400/40C+ softcase pack for practice? :)


01/30/2009 LiPo Battery Specification Amendment

ROAR 1:8 LiPo Battery Specification Amendment. The 1:8 Electric Racing Classes are an emerging form of our sport. Our responsibility in ROAR Leadership Role is to outline a set of specifications which ensure a responsible growth and flexibility to leverage advancements based on the benefits they offer our users.

The Executive Committee, in accordance with our responsibility to ensure our Members, Organizers, and Affiliate Partners have access to provide the best Technology available for our members benefit, are issuing the following Revision to our 4S Battery Dimension Specifications. The change will allow our Affiliate partners to take advantage of a growing assortment of next generation LiPo cells for 1:8 Electric Racing, as well as the option using larger gauge wire in the assembly process. Rule 8.3.2.3.3. is revising the Hardcase Length dimension from 160mm to 165mm.

4S Hardcase LiPo Dimension Spec

Current Rule 8.3.2.3.3. Max Brick Style 4S Length: 160mm Width: 52mm Height: 52mm
Revised Rule 8.3.2.3.3. Max Brick Style 4S Length: 165mm Width: 52mm Height: 52mm

nougat 03-10-2009 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by LowBoost (Post 5534834)
Thanks! My brand new RC8T (Electric Conversion) and all gear will sit in the storage toolbox, waiting for some batteries, so I can run. :nod:

Wanted to get a pack so I can run it for the first time this wee until you release the hardcasekend, but I don't want to spend money on a battery I will not use then...
Perhaps I can get a 4S/5400/40C+ softcase pack for practice? :)

Are you really going to wait until mid-April? That's some serious will power.

LowBoost 03-11-2009 08:45 AM

Yes, sadly I guess I am waiting :(

skelly1344 03-11-2009 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by LowBoost (Post 5538493)
Yes, sadly I guess I am waiting :(

Any reason why you won't consider 2 X 2S 40C 5200's in series?

LowBoost 03-11-2009 01:15 PM

@ skelly...

Actually, those are the ones I was thinking about getting.. in the meantime. Heck, I also bought 2 x Hyperion 610i Net and 2 x LRP power supplies... I just need to make sure they fit in the AE electric conversion kit. (RC8T)

skelly1344 03-11-2009 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by LowBoost (Post 5539469)
@ skelly...

Actually, those are the ones I was thinking about getting.. in the meantime. Heck, I also bought 2 x Hyperion 610i Net and 2 x LRP power supplies... I just need to make sure they fit in the AE electric conversion kit. (RC8T)

The AE conversion is set up to handle 2 X standard Roar sized packs on their edge. The pics from Associated show it with 2 of their 35C 5000's back to back on edge in the tray. A pair of the SMC 2S 40C 5200's should fit without issue.

Good choice on the chargers. I have a 610i Duo and love it!

LowBoost 03-17-2009 10:37 AM

Skelly / Dan:

I noticed these comes with Deans connectors... I have two chargers... no problem, but how do I connect them as one to my ESC? (Sorry for the newbie question.. I just got back to RC racing after a few years retirement)

skelly1344 03-17-2009 11:17 AM


Originally Posted by LowBoost (Post 5562322)
Skelly / Dan:

I noticed these comes with Deans connectors... I have two chargers... no problem, but how do I connect them as one to my ESC? (Sorry for the newbie question.. I just got back to RC racing after a few years retirement)

Series battery connection:
http://scriptasylum.com/rc_speed/_pi...20lvc_1.gif~18

Image from: http://scriptasylum.com/rc_speed/index.html

LowBoost 03-17-2009 11:23 AM

Never mind..

nougat 03-20-2009 09:00 AM

Can you use the series adapter to charge two 2s lipos as a 4s lipo?

skelly1344 03-20-2009 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by nougat (Post 5574973)
Can you use the series adapter to charge two 2s lipos as a 4s lipo?

Yes, and I would recommend getting a tap adapter made up to balance them as a 4S if you run them in series in the vehicle.


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