Brushless Motor Thread
#181
Originally posted by Exe
what the hell is with them? what's the stupid difference if it is wounded in one way or another? why they can't allow all windings? i don't get it...
what the hell is with them? what's the stupid difference if it is wounded in one way or another? why they can't allow all windings? i don't get it...
Just imaging if your brushless motor got 5poles, pentagon winding, rare material magnet, etc. How fast will that be?
#182
so let it be.. why not? it's gonna be too fast or what? but why allow only two stupid brushless motors when there are 10s availbale more!
#183
Originally posted by Exe
so let it be.. why not? it's gonna be too fast or what? but why allow only two stupid brushless motors when there are 10s availbale more!
so let it be.. why not? it's gonna be too fast or what? but why allow only two stupid brushless motors when there are 10s availbale more!
At least we got the brushless rule now, that's the only thing that matter for me as racer.
#184
Originally posted by ttso
I guess the point is: the rule is finally here. If manufacture wanna play the game, they gotta follow the rule. If Hacker or other company wanna do the racing with IFMAR rule, I'm sure they can make a new motor to fit the rule in no time. The real question is: will them? Most of current brushless motor makers are not focus on touring car but other application like airplane/chopper. Will they join the new market under the IFMAR rule is still a big Q.
At least we got the brushless rule now, that's the only thing that matter for me as racer.
I guess the point is: the rule is finally here. If manufacture wanna play the game, they gotta follow the rule. If Hacker or other company wanna do the racing with IFMAR rule, I'm sure they can make a new motor to fit the rule in no time. The real question is: will them? Most of current brushless motor makers are not focus on touring car but other application like airplane/chopper. Will they join the new market under the IFMAR rule is still a big Q.
At least we got the brushless rule now, that's the only thing that matter for me as racer.
you are right, but there is interesting thing, at least in efra, where brushless allow, motor limit is 1 turn or something like that, i.e. no moto limit actually... show me brushless motor which is capable of running at par with 7-8 turn motor... novak ss5800 or new lrp?
#185
Originally posted by Exe
you are right, but there is interesting thing, at least in efra, where brushless allow, motor limit is 1 turn or something like that, i.e. no moto limit actually... show me brushless motor which is capable of running at par with 7-8 turn motor... novak ss5800 or new lrp?
you are right, but there is interesting thing, at least in efra, where brushless allow, motor limit is 1 turn or something like that, i.e. no moto limit actually... show me brushless motor which is capable of running at par with 7-8 turn motor... novak ss5800 or new lrp?
I haven't see Novak's new system (probably SS5800 motor with a new ESC) and LRP Sphere ESC + Reedy NEO1 motor combination by myself since they haven't release yet. But from what I read on ROAR Nats report, they are fast enough to compete with 8T if not faster. So waiting for new system is a must for modify racing.
I think I will get Novak's new system if the only different is ESC. But if the motor also different from SS5800, than I need to evaluate is Novak faster? or LRP+Reedy faster? Also the size, weight, price issue. We will see....
#187
novak isn't fast simply.. no matter what you use.. maybe with new esc it will help, but still it su.... i tried with matched batteries, doesn't make any difference. lrp should be a little more powerful, but still i really doubt, it can keep up with par with good mods...
#188
Originally posted by Exe
novak isn't fast simply.. no matter what you use.. maybe with new esc it will help, but still it su.... i tried with matched batteries, doesn't make any difference. lrp should be a little more powerful, but still i really doubt, it can keep up with par with good mods...
novak isn't fast simply.. no matter what you use.. maybe with new esc it will help, but still it su.... i tried with matched batteries, doesn't make any difference. lrp should be a little more powerful, but still i really doubt, it can keep up with par with good mods...
So was new brushless which within IFMAR's rule ready to compete with 8T? I think the answer is 100% yes. The only questions left are when? and how much? I hope it won't be too far away, and surly not something 500usd system...
#189
Tech Elite
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show me brushless motor which is capable of running at par with 7-8 turn motor... novak ss5800 or new lrp?
The reason that I believe that roar instated the wye wind only rule is because novak said to. novak believes it is the better winding pattern, but there are hundreds of other motors out there that disagree. All current production brushed motors are delta wound... so wye (pardon the pun) the inconsistancy between the two? I think we are going to see major changes in the rules in the next couple of years. We will just have to see what happens.
#190
Originally posted by kufman
as far as I can tell the Plettenberg shadow could keep up with 7 and 8 turn motors. I know it isn't roar legal, but who cares, roar has seen it's day.
The reason that I believe that roar instated the wye wind only rule is because novak said to. novak believes it is the better winding pattern, but there are hundreds of other motors out there that disagree. All current production brushed motors are delta wound... so wye (pardon the pun) the inconsistancy between the two? I think we are going to see major changes in the rules in the next couple of years. We will just have to see what happens.
as far as I can tell the Plettenberg shadow could keep up with 7 and 8 turn motors. I know it isn't roar legal, but who cares, roar has seen it's day.
The reason that I believe that roar instated the wye wind only rule is because novak said to. novak believes it is the better winding pattern, but there are hundreds of other motors out there that disagree. All current production brushed motors are delta wound... so wye (pardon the pun) the inconsistancy between the two? I think we are going to see major changes in the rules in the next couple of years. We will just have to see what happens.
yes, there are real fast brushless motors, but the problem is that they use delta winding, not y... and y is confirmed not only by roar, also by efra
#192
that's simply stupid...
#193
Tech Rookie
Why didn't the poeple writing these rules just let brushless do it thing? Keep a 'Stock' type motor with KV of around 5000 (25,000rpm at 5v) and inside a certain price, and a mild modified under the same sore of rule (KV and price) just a bit higher,and just let the open modified work its self out. Brushlees is the way to go just let it happen, stop trying to hold it back.
Eddie
Eddie
#194
Tech Adept
UForce75 Question
What is everyone setting the #2 DIL switch to, ON or OFF?
OFF is the learning NP only and ON is fixed travel.
Thanks
OFF is the learning NP only and ON is fixed travel.
Thanks
#195
on