Awesomatix EP Touring Car (A700 Shaft Drive)
#1351
First Impressions
Hey all,
First race meet with A700 on Friday and like many others on this thread ... WOW!
Qualified 2nd, finished 2nd. Fastest lap in last qualifier and the final.
A700 is already 0.10sec (fast lap) faster than my TOP Photon !
Car feels very direct / responsive. Getting some snap oversteer in sweepers, so like Try Hard will be experimenting with battery position and wheel base next time.
My set up is similar to Try Hard's, however am using short camber links (kit).
Will also be trying longer links soon.
Overall, very very impressed indeed !
Has anyone tried symetric dampers in front and asymetric in rear?
Thanks Alan
First race meet with A700 on Friday and like many others on this thread ... WOW!
Qualified 2nd, finished 2nd. Fastest lap in last qualifier and the final.
A700 is already 0.10sec (fast lap) faster than my TOP Photon !
Car feels very direct / responsive. Getting some snap oversteer in sweepers, so like Try Hard will be experimenting with battery position and wheel base next time.
My set up is similar to Try Hard's, however am using short camber links (kit).
Will also be trying longer links soon.
Overall, very very impressed indeed !
Has anyone tried symetric dampers in front and asymetric in rear?
Thanks Alan
#1352
Awawesomatix
Hi all, Where can I buy one!!!!
#1354
#1355
Tech Apprentice
Hey all!
I just want to share with you my first basic setup for carpet tracks with medium size.
If you have any questions, please feel free to ask and/ or contact me.
The car works perfect and is super easy to drive.
Regards
Freddy
Don't know why but my pdf file seems to be broken ... mhhh
I just want to share with you my first basic setup for carpet tracks with medium size.
If you have any questions, please feel free to ask and/ or contact me.
The car works perfect and is super easy to drive.
Regards
Freddy
Don't know why but my pdf file seems to be broken ... mhhh
Last edited by FreddySudhoff; 01-15-2012 at 07:55 AM.
#1356
Tech Fanatic
Freddy, thank you!
We are waiting your setup now.
But 488.3 KB is limit for .pdf attachments now here.
We are waiting your setup now.
But 488.3 KB is limit for .pdf attachments now here.
Last edited by Oleg Babich; 01-15-2012 at 06:05 AM.
#1357
Tech Apprentice
here it is ...
#1358
#1359
Tech Apprentice
To be honest I don't have a video. Maybe I can make one at next practice. The track had some hairpins but also long sweepers.
The dampening feels good. Nearly to normal shocks in standard cars and similiar to Ronalds Yokomo.
Here is a picture of the track:
http://www.odw-raceway.de/wp-content...1/IMG_0003.jpg
The dampening feels good. Nearly to normal shocks in standard cars and similiar to Ronalds Yokomo.
Here is a picture of the track:
http://www.odw-raceway.de/wp-content...1/IMG_0003.jpg
Last edited by FreddySudhoff; 01-15-2012 at 08:01 AM.
#1360
Tech Regular
#1361
Tech Apprentice
Yes, it's right. You will fill it with 1.000.000 Oil. Sounds strange and stiff but it feels great and is not to hard.
You can also adjust the front diff that it will have slightly slip. Or adjust it very tight and you just have the effect like a gear diff.
Freddy
You can also adjust the front diff that it will have slightly slip. Or adjust it very tight and you just have the effect like a gear diff.
Freddy
#1363
Tech Apprentice
Yeah, I ran the front shocks as much inside as possible so distance A=0. Distance B=5mm and screws arrangement in front 1 and in rear 2.
Due to the RH screw the spring is not too soft. Please try it and feel the stiffness.
To be honest I don't know where to get the million oil. I borrowed it from a friend.
Freddy
Due to the RH screw the spring is not too soft. Please try it and feel the stiffness.
To be honest I don't know where to get the million oil. I borrowed it from a friend.
Freddy
#1364
We had our big monthly race ( this one was called the Icebox in-door ) and the Awesomatix didn’t let me down on a day when it was snowing outside. It seeing the snow may have made it lonely for Moscow but it didn’t show it :-) I got TQ and the win against some solid talent. Everyone continues to be impressed with the corner speed and that I can hit the same spot reliably lap after lap. No doubt that the A700 is getting deserved attention both on and off the track.
Freddy, interesting that you were able to use so little dampening but it looks like your spring rate was equally low. I went the opposite way with the highest dampening possible ( A = 6.8mm, SRS II ) then added spring rate as described below. Seeing the picture I’m wondering what type of carpet that is, and what its characteristics are compared to Ozyte ?
I’ve noticed that many of the winning setups are around 95 gF/mm spring rate. I started out with 100 gF/mm knowing that our grip was less than the big international races where these setups were derived from. Using SRS/RHS Screw arrangement II and to get full ( heaviest ) damping rate I chose A value of 6.8mm ( nearly max ) and adjusted B to 3mm to get 100 gF/mm. Through the day I decreased B to 2mm, then 1mm ( increasing the spring rate each time ). So my spring rate went from 100gF/mm up to 110 , then 120 gF/mm. At the end of the day I saw a hint of a traction roll and maybe with the added traction the car may have started losing some corner speed. For our conditions 115 gF/mm may have been ideal.
Also, using he AIS steering rack ( in full forward position ) I tried both the shortest possible steering turnbuckle length and also the longest possible, back to back. So to be clear, ( for the longest ) this means the innermost ball stud location on the AIS rack with the outermost position of the steering knuckle. I thought the longer configuration made the car have more initial steering. I have to analyze why the different length arms has made such a result !
Jake Danilchik
edit : fixed my setup sheet. Now correct spring rate is shown and gear oil
Freddy, interesting that you were able to use so little dampening but it looks like your spring rate was equally low. I went the opposite way with the highest dampening possible ( A = 6.8mm, SRS II ) then added spring rate as described below. Seeing the picture I’m wondering what type of carpet that is, and what its characteristics are compared to Ozyte ?
I’ve noticed that many of the winning setups are around 95 gF/mm spring rate. I started out with 100 gF/mm knowing that our grip was less than the big international races where these setups were derived from. Using SRS/RHS Screw arrangement II and to get full ( heaviest ) damping rate I chose A value of 6.8mm ( nearly max ) and adjusted B to 3mm to get 100 gF/mm. Through the day I decreased B to 2mm, then 1mm ( increasing the spring rate each time ). So my spring rate went from 100gF/mm up to 110 , then 120 gF/mm. At the end of the day I saw a hint of a traction roll and maybe with the added traction the car may have started losing some corner speed. For our conditions 115 gF/mm may have been ideal.
Also, using he AIS steering rack ( in full forward position ) I tried both the shortest possible steering turnbuckle length and also the longest possible, back to back. So to be clear, ( for the longest ) this means the innermost ball stud location on the AIS rack with the outermost position of the steering knuckle. I thought the longer configuration made the car have more initial steering. I have to analyze why the different length arms has made such a result !
Jake Danilchik
edit : fixed my setup sheet. Now correct spring rate is shown and gear oil
Last edited by Magnet Top; 01-15-2012 at 12:58 PM.
#1365
Tech Apprentice
Congrats for the great result!
The carpet is an old one from the LRP Touring Car Masters some years ago I think.
It's a standard carpet which the most tracks here in germany use. I don't know any specific details, sorry.
I just played a little bit with the shocks setting and ended up with this soft setting which felt best and increased laptimes.
I also compared the setting with a standard shock and that felt nearly the same.
Freddy
The carpet is an old one from the LRP Touring Car Masters some years ago I think.
It's a standard carpet which the most tracks here in germany use. I don't know any specific details, sorry.
I just played a little bit with the shocks setting and ended up with this soft setting which felt best and increased laptimes.
I also compared the setting with a standard shock and that felt nearly the same.
Freddy