New JACO foam sedan tires
08-09-2007, 06:40 PM
#61
08-09-2007, 07:13 PM
#63
i like them.. i cant wait to try them out this winter.
08-10-2007, 06:46 AM
#64
My only request would be to do away with the different compounds being named after colors, just cut to the chase and just give a shore rating...
"company x's cyan is actually our magenta...." what a load of BS!
people would buy more tires if they knew that they were buying the right compounds instead of guessing, I have been searching for a conversion chart of Jaco's color tire ratings for some time, and still have not got a reliable source.
Please can someone at Jaco post a comprehensive color>shore chart.
It is comforting that others are also somewhat confused by the whole issue...
Pete,
PS. nice looking rims, but a broken rim wont win any races. I still go for "function over form". and therefore prefer dish rims.
my 2c
"company x's cyan is actually our magenta...." what a load of BS!
people would buy more tires if they knew that they were buying the right compounds instead of guessing, I have been searching for a conversion chart of Jaco's color tire ratings for some time, and still have not got a reliable source.
Please can someone at Jaco post a comprehensive color>shore chart.
It is comforting that others are also somewhat confused by the whole issue...
Pete,
PS. nice looking rims, but a broken rim wont win any races. I still go for "function over form". and therefore prefer dish rims.
my 2c
08-10-2007, 06:49 AM
#65
My only request would be to do away with the different compounds being named after colors, just cut to the chase and just give a shore rating...
"company x's cyan is actually our magenta...." what a load of BS!
people would buy more tires if they knew that they were buying the right compounds instead of guessing, I have been searching for a conversion chart of Jaco's color tire ratings for some time, and still have not got a reliable source.
Please can someone at Jaco post a comprehensive color>shore chart.
It is comforting that others are also somewhat confused by the whole issue...
"company x's cyan is actually our magenta...." what a load of BS!
people would buy more tires if they knew that they were buying the right compounds instead of guessing, I have been searching for a conversion chart of Jaco's color tire ratings for some time, and still have not got a reliable source.
Please can someone at Jaco post a comprehensive color>shore chart.
It is comforting that others are also somewhat confused by the whole issue...
08-10-2007, 07:49 AM
#66
I have heard that there are also different 'families' of rubber that our tires are made from. What families are the same for the compounds that Jaco makes tires from... Or is the 12th scale only?
Pink-30
Magenta-32
Double pink-35
Lilac-38
Purple-40
Pink-30
Magenta-32
Double pink-35
Lilac-38
Purple-40
08-10-2007, 08:41 AM
#67
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This was Jack's post about what compounds will be out......
Yeah I know....my question was Jack listed a Cyan as one of the tire compounds as well as a double Pink/Orange....so what compounds make up JACO's Cyan? Is it a Magenta/Orange? or something else? Does anyone know what compound or compounds make up the JACO Cyan?
Yeah I know....my question was Jack listed a Cyan as one of the tire compounds as well as a double Pink/Orange....so what compounds make up JACO's Cyan? Is it a Magenta/Orange? or something else? Does anyone know what compound or compounds make up the JACO Cyan?
08-10-2007, 12:34 PM
#68
This was Jack's post about what compounds will be out......
Yeah I know....my question was Jack listed a Cyan as one of the tire compounds as well as a double Pink/Orange....so what compounds make up JACO's Cyan? Is it a Magenta/Orange? or something else? Does anyone know what compound or compounds make up the JACO Cyan?
Yeah I know....my question was Jack listed a Cyan as one of the tire compounds as well as a double Pink/Orange....so what compounds make up JACO's Cyan? Is it a Magenta/Orange? or something else? Does anyone know what compound or compounds make up the JACO Cyan?
08-10-2007, 12:40 PM
#69
08-10-2007, 12:54 PM
#70
I understand where you're coming from here. But please keep in mind that Josh and Jack designed this rim, and tested different stress points and such while they were designing it. A solid dish rim isn't nesecarily going to be stronger than a spoked rim. To be totally honest, I've cracked more dish rims than I have of the spoked 26mm rims. In fact, I personally have not cracked any of the spoked rims. I'm positive that Jack and Josh both kept durability, and flex characteristics in mind when designing this rim, and I know that Jack is willing to test different compounds of plastics in order to produce a durable rim.
I would say it's probably best to wait and see how they perform before writing them off as fragile just because they are spoked.
08-10-2007, 01:43 PM
#71
08-10-2007, 06:32 PM
#72
Hey Pete,
I understand where you're coming from here. But please keep in mind that Josh and Jack designed this rim, and tested different stress points and such while they were designing it. A solid dish rim isn't nesecarily going to be stronger than a spoked rim. To be totally honest, I've cracked more dish rims than I have of the spoked 26mm rims. In fact, I personally have not cracked any of the spoked rims. I'm positive that Jack and Josh both kept durability, and flex characteristics in mind when designing this rim, and I know that Jack is willing to test different compounds of plastics in order to produce a durable rim.
I would say it's probably best to wait and see how they perform before writing them off as fragile just because they are spoked.
I understand where you're coming from here. But please keep in mind that Josh and Jack designed this rim, and tested different stress points and such while they were designing it. A solid dish rim isn't nesecarily going to be stronger than a spoked rim. To be totally honest, I've cracked more dish rims than I have of the spoked 26mm rims. In fact, I personally have not cracked any of the spoked rims. I'm positive that Jack and Josh both kept durability, and flex characteristics in mind when designing this rim, and I know that Jack is willing to test different compounds of plastics in order to produce a durable rim.
I would say it's probably best to wait and see how they perform before writing them off as fragile just because they are spoked.
I agree,
If you can get good looking rims that dont break, why not go for them...
I'll give them a shot, but one busted rim and thats it...
08-10-2007, 06:39 PM
#73
thanks Steve, but I was after a COMPREHENSIVE chart, from the manufacturer. I still hope to get one.
BTW, what is the shore rating of an orange? and is there a difference between Jaco, parma, GRP etc etc.
this is the Trinity color/shore chart, it is the best that I have found so far.
are the Jaco colors similar?
BTW, what is the shore rating of an orange? and is there a difference between Jaco, parma, GRP etc etc.
this is the Trinity color/shore chart, it is the best that I have found so far.
are the Jaco colors similar?
08-10-2007, 09:00 PM
#74
Great looking rims Jack!!
I have a thought for the diameter- 58mm is great for pure "big race" racing, and the thought of not having to cut 6mm or more of tire off right out of the package is great, but keep in mind that the regular club racer (you know, the races where the racers actually purchase their tires) who is racing where there may only be 10-40 entries will appreciate the slightly larger 60mm sidewall because your typical club track doesn't see enough cars on a weekly basis to have that "wicked Nationals" bite. The extra height generates some of the missing traction.
Well, my wife has asked me so many questions and agravated me until I've completely lost my train of thought....
anyway, looks great Jack- thanks for working hard to provide better products for us.
Jason
I have a thought for the diameter- 58mm is great for pure "big race" racing, and the thought of not having to cut 6mm or more of tire off right out of the package is great, but keep in mind that the regular club racer (you know, the races where the racers actually purchase their tires) who is racing where there may only be 10-40 entries will appreciate the slightly larger 60mm sidewall because your typical club track doesn't see enough cars on a weekly basis to have that "wicked Nationals" bite. The extra height generates some of the missing traction.
Well, my wife has asked me so many questions and agravated me until I've completely lost my train of thought....
anyway, looks great Jack- thanks for working hard to provide better products for us.
Jason
08-10-2007, 09:37 PM
#75