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Old 05-09-2007, 09:01 AM
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you should be very worried this will happen again and again and again.







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Are we going to start talking about the most overrated QB in the NFL now????? Its sad that with their last superbowl win a WR threw the best pass the whole game.....sad.
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Mcsmooth Randy called and said " Do I make you horny baby "

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Originally Posted by Kevin K
their last superbowl win
Exactly. Just one season ago.

Bears are working on 20+ seasons. Futher, Bears fans have no room talking ill of another team's QB situation.

Wait.....this just in. The Patriots just blew another 18 point lead.

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Yeah they do b/c everyone knows the troubles of the Bears QB's but when you have a QB that the media is all over like the next best thing and he just flat out stinks then we can talk about that. No-one ever praises the Bears QB's nationally like they are Montana if they did they would be stupid....but your QB gets all kinds of praise for just being adequate. If that QB was on any other team he wouldn’t even be talked about nationally or even be starting IMO. So yeah we can talk about him and how not impressive he is.
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as funny as it is grossman was better than ben last year.



This year the patriots are going to have to blow a 30 plus point lead to lose the afc champioship game.



i was just playing my ps3 and i playing against Ben .... you will never guess what we were playing........... road rash he was tuff but i got him in the end. check out the screen shot arent the graphics awesome !!

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Back on topic PLEASE.....

What is the happiest place on Earth?

The visitor’s dugout at Wrigley
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Originally Posted by Kevin K
If that QB was on any other team he wouldn’t even be talked about nationally or even be starting IMO.
This is where you lost all credibility.

So Ben couldn't start for any other team in the NFL? You're sure about that?

He couldn't beat out Culpepper in Miami?
He couldn't beat out Frye in Cleveland?
He couldn't beat out Jason Campbell in Washington?
He couldn't beat out Kitna in Detroit?
Heck, he couldn't beat out Grossman?
That's just five....there's more, like the Vikings, 49ers, Broncos, Cowboys that I can make a case for.

Anyways, I'm not the one that brought up Ben or if/how he is 'overhyped'. He didn't play well in the Super Bowl....so? The rest of the team picked it up...that's what good teams do. However, his stats in the 3 road playoff games leading to the Super Bowl were very, very good.

They won the Super Bowl despite him, but they never would've gotten there without him.
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Originally Posted by wallstreet
as funny as it is grossman was better than ben last year.
QB ratings 2006:

Rex: 73.9
Ben: 75.4
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Originally Posted by McSmooth
QB ratings 2006:

Rex: 73.9
Ben: 75.4


this isnt madden care to throw out the tds.....ints.... total yards...

Maybe team records ?
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you had better hope the brewers keep winning or your never going to hear the end of it.


i just hope the brewers can break there streak of not having a winning season since 1991
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Originally Posted by McSmooth
This is where you lost all credibility.

So Ben couldn't start for any other team in the NFL? You're sure about that?

He couldn't beat out Culpepper in Miami?
He couldn't beat out Frye in Cleveland?
He couldn't beat out Jason Campbell in Washington?
He couldn't beat out Kitna in Detroit?
Heck, he couldn't beat out Grossman?
That's just five....there's more, like the Vikings, 49ers, Broncos, Cowboys that I can make a case for.

Anyways, I'm not the one that brought up Ben or if/how he is 'overhyped'. He didn't play well in the Super Bowl....so? The rest of the team picked it up...that's what good teams do. However, his stats in the 3 road playoff games leading to the Super Bowl were very, very good.

They won the Super Bowl despite him, but they never would've gotten there without him.

you must be out of your mind if you think ben is better than kitna... and if i was you i would watch your words.... romo and cutler are both going to have better seasons than ben and so will grossman
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Originally Posted by McSmooth
They won the Super Bowl despite him, but they never would've gotten there without him.
Exactly Despite him...that team was good and had a lot of things going for them and they won despite him.....and any of the other QB's you mentioned would have had the same results he had if not better that year and all the other years with that team.
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Originally Posted by wallstreet
this isnt madden care to throw out the tds.....ints.... total yards...

Maybe team records ?
That's the QB passer rating stat from nfl.com....not the "Madden rating".

http://www.nfl.com/stats/leaders/NFL/PRAT/2006/regular
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