Horizon discontinuing XX4??
#46
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Of course this widens the profit margin for manufacturers, but oddly enough doesn't mean cheaper kits here in the states...usually?
Computers are cheaper there
Dog food is cheaper there
Toothpaste is cheaper
Baby toys are cheaper
Tires are cheaper too....
Of course they just executed the man in charge of over seeing exports for taking bribes and passing on inferior products to over seas consumers.
...But, it's cheaper.
Are we headed in the right direction??
All are manufactured over seas as cheaply as possible, not as good as possible.
hmmmm
...Jim
W.E.D.
Computers are cheaper there
Dog food is cheaper there
Toothpaste is cheaper
Baby toys are cheaper
Tires are cheaper too....
Of course they just executed the man in charge of over seeing exports for taking bribes and passing on inferior products to over seas consumers.
...But, it's cheaper.
Are we headed in the right direction??
All are manufactured over seas as cheaply as possible, not as good as possible.
hmmmm
...Jim
W.E.D.
#47
Tech Elite
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I knew you were going to say that. The XXXT-MF, MF2 and CR are based of XXXT, the Mini and Micro-Ts appear similar, but do not share any parts. They are not "shrunk" to scale either.
I think many of the American racers who were dedicated to supporting Losi care. The HPI and Academy (thanks mfishel) will be nothing revolutionary, as you can see with the CAD pics of the Academy car. Its also unlikely that Kyosho will release another truck, due to the size of the market for it. Although I wish they would to add another option there. In fact as a long time AE guy, Im buying an RB5, haha.
I think many of the American racers who were dedicated to supporting Losi care. The HPI and Academy (thanks mfishel) will be nothing revolutionary, as you can see with the CAD pics of the Academy car. Its also unlikely that Kyosho will release another truck, due to the size of the market for it. Although I wish they would to add another option there. In fact as a long time AE guy, Im buying an RB5, haha.
well it is BASED on the XXXT, or else it wouldnt even look remotely close to one. Obviously a 18th scale isnt going to share parts with a 32nd scale car.
#50
There is a difference between Thunder Tiger buying AE and Horizon buying Losi...Thunder Tiger is still owner by a hobbiest, Horizon is not. Kyosho is owned by a hobbiest too. I think AE/TT and Kyosho will be fine until those compaines are sold to and owned by somebody who isn't a hobbiest. Thats why a company produces racing kits, because the owner has a passion about racing r/c cars, obviously its not to make a hugh profit. The owners are a bit more distant from the end product at TT and kyosho, but there are still there.
#51
it is very sad but companies such as losi ,associated etc are a business and the directors job is to make money for the owners and they will do this the best way they know how and sometimes cutting programs such as race teams can slash overheads.still sad though
#52
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What really sucks is that Horizon already owns basher brands such as Sportwerks that all the non-race oriented vehicles could be released through. My gut tells me that after the 8ight and 8ight-T, Losi will not be releasing any more race cars (I dont consider the XXX-T CR , repackaging parts you already produce doesnt count).
#53
#54
Tech Addict
Tell the manufacturers to cut their budget for advertising in half, and use that money to promote the racing. Do they think they won't sell any more stuff if they don't have 4 pages of glossy ads in every magazine every Month?
#55
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The only way R/C racing is really going to grow is with involvement outside of the industry.
Tell the manufacturers to cut their budget for advertising in half, and use that money to promote the racing. Do they think they won't sell any more stuff if they don't have 4 pages of glossy ads in every magazine every Month?
Tell the manufacturers to cut their budget for advertising in half, and use that money to promote the racing. Do they think they won't sell any more stuff if they don't have 4 pages of glossy ads in every magazine every Month?
#56
last thing a company wants to do is have a kit thats really good for too long. they have marketing payrolls to speak for. really hard for them to put food on the table if they cant 'spin' you on the new latest/greatest/precision piece of plastic. not every1 has a 'rc10' name they can sell yr after yr either.
sadly while u guys are in here upset over the 'ReRe' loss, there are many of more out there (maybe some of u), that help propel the marketing machines that feed these big companies ur hard earned $. all b/c ur jammin is so last yr...
its a shame really, but hey, thats business. i wish there was a kit to make my CR a dirt oval car in the winter, then i might have more reason to keep it. shame to see where his old company has gone, but get used to it. however...
...all good things come round again in time, it just might not be called a 'losi'.
R
sadly while u guys are in here upset over the 'ReRe' loss, there are many of more out there (maybe some of u), that help propel the marketing machines that feed these big companies ur hard earned $. all b/c ur jammin is so last yr...
its a shame really, but hey, thats business. i wish there was a kit to make my CR a dirt oval car in the winter, then i might have more reason to keep it. shame to see where his old company has gone, but get used to it. however...
...all good things come round again in time, it just might not be called a 'losi'.
R
#57
Tech Addict
I think (?) I understand what you are saying. The arguement has always been 'don't complain about the pusher, he wouldn't be there if people weren't buying'.
Just ask yourself the next time you're at a race where the Red Bull tent is? Or the Bud tent?
Andy is right. These guys just want the same insular market to self perpetuate itself. They don't want the racing to get bigger because they may lose control of it.
Just ask yourself the next time you're at a race where the Red Bull tent is? Or the Bud tent?
Andy is right. These guys just want the same insular market to self perpetuate itself. They don't want the racing to get bigger because they may lose control of it.
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#59
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I think (?) I understand what you are saying. The arguement has always been 'don't complain about the pusher, he wouldn't be there if people weren't buying'.
Just ask yourself the next time you're at a race where the Red Bull tent is? Or the Bud tent?
Andy is right. These guys just want the same insular market to self perpetuate itself. They don't want the racing to get bigger because they may lose control of it.
Just ask yourself the next time you're at a race where the Red Bull tent is? Or the Bud tent?
Andy is right. These guys just want the same insular market to self perpetuate itself. They don't want the racing to get bigger because they may lose control of it.