Long camber links, is it worth it ?
03-06-2011, 05:55 AM
#1
Long camber links, is it worth it ?
first off, i wanna explain that i am driving a really old car, A kawada Alcyon II from 2001. At that time all the cars dont use vertical ball studs, and the camber links end before the wheel, hence they are kinda short, as you can see in the picture.
My car handles very well and i am really happy with it, i have lots of traction ,even to the very last bit of tyre.
i went up against a couple of guys with Schmacer Mi4cx, yokomo BD5,X ray T3 -11 , and found the car to be on par with theirs, i was able to keep up with them very closely. When i make a mistake, they overtake me but they cant lose me, when they make a mistake and i overtake them, i cant lose them either, so i am pretty stoked that such an old car can handle this way.
However i am looking for a little extra edge. i feel that my car is already at its limits and it cannot do any better. And dont ask me to buy a new car
My question is, i see that the more modern cars (2004 onward)have vertical ball studs, as well as camber links that are much longer than the cars from 10 years ago.
The rear camber links for todays cars reach all the way inside the wheel, and the front camber links attach to the kingpin.
My question is, if i were to modify the car to have long camber links like todays cars, will i get more traction and less roll?
You see Kawada did experiment with this concept for the Last version of the Alcyon II called the Ultimate in late 2002, which used C hubs that had the camber link attached directly to the kingpin for the front, which increase the front camber link by another 7mm, and the rear camber link by another 12mm. These parts are still available from Kawada. My question is, will i see a noticable change and / or improvement if were to install these parts ? i want to know before i decide to buy these new rear hub carriers and c hubs.
My car handles very well and i am really happy with it, i have lots of traction ,even to the very last bit of tyre.
i went up against a couple of guys with Schmacer Mi4cx, yokomo BD5,X ray T3 -11 , and found the car to be on par with theirs, i was able to keep up with them very closely. When i make a mistake, they overtake me but they cant lose me, when they make a mistake and i overtake them, i cant lose them either, so i am pretty stoked that such an old car can handle this way.
However i am looking for a little extra edge. i feel that my car is already at its limits and it cannot do any better. And dont ask me to buy a new car
My question is, i see that the more modern cars (2004 onward)have vertical ball studs, as well as camber links that are much longer than the cars from 10 years ago.
The rear camber links for todays cars reach all the way inside the wheel, and the front camber links attach to the kingpin.
My question is, if i were to modify the car to have long camber links like todays cars, will i get more traction and less roll?
You see Kawada did experiment with this concept for the Last version of the Alcyon II called the Ultimate in late 2002, which used C hubs that had the camber link attached directly to the kingpin for the front, which increase the front camber link by another 7mm, and the rear camber link by another 12mm. These parts are still available from Kawada. My question is, will i see a noticable change and / or improvement if were to install these parts ? i want to know before i decide to buy these new rear hub carriers and c hubs.
03-06-2011, 07:01 AM
#2
first off, i wanna explain that i am driving a really old car, A kawada Alcyon II from 2001. At that time all the cars dont use vertical ball studs, and the camber links end before the wheel, hence they are kinda short, as you can see in the picture.
My car handles very well and i am really happy with it, i have lots of traction ,even to the very last bit of tyre.
i went up against a couple of guys with Schmacer Mi4cx, yokomo BD5,X ray T3 -11 , and found the car to be on par with theirs, i was able to keep up with them very closely. When i make a mistake, they overtake me but they cant lose me, when they make a mistake and i overtake them, i cant lose them either, so i am pretty stoked that such an old car can handle this way.
However i am looking for a little extra edge. i feel that my car is already at its limits and it cannot do any better. And dont ask me to buy a new car
My question is, i see that the more modern cars (2004 onward)have vertical ball studs, as well as camber links that are much longer than the cars from 10 years ago.
The rear camber links for todays cars reach all the way inside the wheel, and the front camber links attach to the kingpin.
My question is, if i were to modify the car to have long camber links like todays cars, will i get more traction and less roll?
You see Kawada did experiment with this concept for the Last version of the Alcyon II called the Ultimate in late 2002, which used C hubs that had the camber link attached directly to the kingpin for the front, which increase the front camber link by another 7mm, and the rear camber link by another 12mm. These parts are still available from Kawada. My question is, will i see a noticable change and / or improvement if were to install these parts ? i want to know before i decide to buy these new rear hub carriers and c hubs.
My car handles very well and i am really happy with it, i have lots of traction ,even to the very last bit of tyre.
i went up against a couple of guys with Schmacer Mi4cx, yokomo BD5,X ray T3 -11 , and found the car to be on par with theirs, i was able to keep up with them very closely. When i make a mistake, they overtake me but they cant lose me, when they make a mistake and i overtake them, i cant lose them either, so i am pretty stoked that such an old car can handle this way.
However i am looking for a little extra edge. i feel that my car is already at its limits and it cannot do any better. And dont ask me to buy a new car
My question is, i see that the more modern cars (2004 onward)have vertical ball studs, as well as camber links that are much longer than the cars from 10 years ago.
The rear camber links for todays cars reach all the way inside the wheel, and the front camber links attach to the kingpin.
My question is, if i were to modify the car to have long camber links like todays cars, will i get more traction and less roll?
You see Kawada did experiment with this concept for the Last version of the Alcyon II called the Ultimate in late 2002, which used C hubs that had the camber link attached directly to the kingpin for the front, which increase the front camber link by another 7mm, and the rear camber link by another 12mm. These parts are still available from Kawada. My question is, will i see a noticable change and / or improvement if were to install these parts ? i want to know before i decide to buy these new rear hub carriers and c hubs.
Yes, longer links will provide more traction and make the vehicle easyer to drive.
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