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E2025 - MBX8 Worlds Edition - April, 2019

MUGE0240: Wide Offset Wheel Hubs 1mm 2pcs; The 1mm wide offset wheel hubs will increase stability and cornering.
MUGE2146: Inline Front Uprights; The E2146 inline front uprights have smoother steering compared to the stock E2147 trailing front uprights and work great in high traction conditions. E2146 uprights can be used with both CVA and universal style driveshafts.
MUGE2168: -3mm Front Upright Arm; The -3mm front upright arm improves the initial steering response and make the vehicle more stable through the middle and exit of the corner.. The new upright arms also reduce bump steer and make the vehicle more predictable in bumpy conditions.
MUGE2235: 46T Spur Gear; The 46 tooth HTD spur gear provides a great balance of acceleration and top-end speed.
MUGE2252: 12T Pinion Gear
MUGE2254: 42T Conical Gear; The optional 12T bevel gear when used with the 42T conical gear will change the final drive ratio and increase acceleration.
MUGE2260: Center Joint Cup.
MUGE2261: Center Front Dog Bone (84.5mm)
MUGE2262: Center Rear Dog Bone (115mm); The front and rear-center dogbones for the MBX8 reduce friction from the stock universal driveshafts. Less friction will give the vehicle a more efficient drivetrain, increase acceleration, and provide more traction. The dog bones are lightweight, durable, and will increase traction.
MUGE2428: Rear Wing Stay +15mm; The +15mm wing mount has more adjustment and will help increase mid corner rotation and be more stable in high speed conditions.


E2021 - MBX8 1/8 Nitro Buggy Kit

Chassis:
The MBX8 chassis features a new design that improves traction and stability in bumpy conditions and on the exit of corners. The steering post are also keyed into the MBX8 chassis for easier maintenance.

Differential & drive train:
High Traction Differentials are included in the MBX8. The Mugen Seiki HTD provides increased acceleration, longer runtime, and more consistent handling. The HTD's also increase stability, traction, and improve handling in bumpy conditions. The HTD has a new larger volume diff cup to increase consistency during long main events. This makes it easier to time rhythm sections, better in bumpy and low grip conditions, helps to increase traction, and increases fuel mileage.

The new gearbox makes allows you to remove and service the differentials without detaching the suspension arm mounts. Easy access to the front and rear differential.

New straight cut 13T bevel gear & 44T conical gear. The new straight cut bevel and conical gears increase acceleration, runtime, and efficiency. A free and efficient drive train will also increase speeds while cornering.

Light weight one-piece wing mount:
The new lightweight one-piece wing mount lower the center of gravity. The position of the wing and wing mount is optimized to improve the performance of vehicle. The height of the wing mount is adjustable. This allows you to control the down force on the rear of the vehicle by simply raising or lowering the mount on the shock tower.

Light weight high down-force wing:
The new IFMAR legal wing is lightweight and provides amazing down force and cornering. The underside of the wing uses a new design to reduced weight and creates additional down-force.

Suspension:
New suspension mounts. The FF/FR/RF/RR are new for the MBX8.
The front and rear lower arms use a new impact resistant material for increased durability. The new arms are box-shaped and include arm stiffeners to reduce flex and increase durability. Adjusting the hardness of the lower suspension arms is now possible. This allows you to fine tune the steering and traction from track to track. CFRP plates will be released as an option part.

Center differential mount & plate:
The center differential mounts use a stiffer material and has a new top plate to reduce chassis flex and increases clutch bell, spur gear, and clutch bearing life. The reduced chassis flex also provides more consistent handling in all conditions. The top plate design also makes it easier to adjust the brakes and easier maintenance.

Enclosed Battery box and updated carbon fiber radio plate:
The MBX8 still uses a flat 2S Lipo or Life battery, but the receiver battery is now enclosed in a molded battery box. The battery box allows for quick and easy access to the battery. The molded box also helps protect the battery from hard impacts. The battery box is mounted to an updated carbon fiber radio plate.

Other new parts and upgrades:
Body, Clamping Servo Saver Nut, F/R Shock Towers, Front bumper, Front center and rear center universal joint.

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Old 12-10-2017, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by mlax
Drake said:

- same drive train
- new, significantly stronger arms (compatible w mbx7r)
- new wing and wing mount
- new towers
- new chassis

Car looks very similar to the 7r but a lot of details have changed.

No split Center diff mount.
Some of your info is wrong. You might want to go back and read it.
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Originally Posted by Chris Reilly
Some of your info is wrong. You might want to go back and read it.
can you tell me whats wrong about it?

- same drive train // Check
- new, significantly stronger arms (compatible w mbx7r) // Check
- new wing and wing mount // Check
- new towers // Check
- new chassis // Check
- Faster access to front and rear diff, diffs are new as well. // Check


By the way, I'm not an insider, i just heard Drake talk about it.
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Originally Posted by mlax
Here we go:

The NEW MBX8 has a lot to offer! More durable, more acceleration, more runtime, easier to work on, and lightweight. The new Mugen Seiki MBX8 buggy has been put to the tested and develop by the best drivers in the world. Soon you’ll be able to get your hands on the MBX8 Nitro Buggy. Coming late January 2018!
Part # E2021MBX8 Nitro Buggy Kit.

Here’s a look at some of the new features for the Mugen Seiki MBX8.

Chassis:
- The MBX8 chassis features a new design that improves traction and stability in bumpy conditions and on the exit of corners. The steering post are also keyed into the MBX8 chassis for easier maintenance.

Differential and drivetrain:
- High Traction Differentials are included in the MBX8. The Mugen Seiki HTD provides increased acceleration, longer runtime, and more consistent handling. The HTD’s also increase stability, traction and improve handling in bumpy conditions. The HTD has a new larger volume diff cup to increase consistency during long main events. This makes it easier to time rhythm sections, better in bumpy and low grip conditions, helps to increase traction, and increases fuel mileage.
- New straight cut 13T bevel gear and 44T conical gear.
The new straight cut bevel and conical gears increase acceleration, runtime, and efficiency. A free and efficient drivetrain will also increase speeds while cornering.

Lightweight one-piece wing mount.
- The new lightweight one-piece wing mount lower the center of gravity. The position of the wing and wing mount is optimized to improve the performance of vehicle. The height of the wing mount is adjustable. This allows you to control the down force on the rear of the vehicle by simply raising or lowering the mount on the shock tower.
- Lightweight high down-force wing.
The new IFMAR legal wing is lightweight and provides amazing down force and corning. The underside of the wing uses a new design to reduced weight and creates additional down-force.
















This should be the first post of **THE REAL MBX8** thread.
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Hello mlax,

Drive Train is not "Change" in a big way but more to "Refined" way.. It will come with a TRUE Straight Cut Bevel and Pinion Gears (NEW) with a smaller 5x11x4mm Pinion Bearing (Very Important in relation with Friction)..

Diff Access would still be the same as the 7..

Cheers..

Originally Posted by mlax
can you tell me whats wrong about it?

- same drive train // Check
- new, significantly stronger arms (compatible w mbx7r) // Check
- new wing and wing mount // Check
- new towers // Check
- new chassis // Check
- Faster access to front and rear diff, diffs are new as well. // Check


By the way, I'm not an insider, i just heard Drake talk about it.
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No bleeder caps 🙁🙁🙁
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I wonder if the new arms and the new radio tray and new chassie will fit the 7r buggy
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Originally Posted by MadMick
I wonder if the new arms and the new radio tray and new chassie will fit the 7r buggy
Arms will, tray won't
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what about the chassie
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Originally Posted by MadMick
what about the chassie
No. It will not fit.
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"...steering posts keyed into the chassis"

thats about time,

i am and always will be a mugen victim lol tried almost every other chassis out there, nothing fits my driving style and overall feeling better.
with my mugens i could always push like no limits..
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Originally Posted by stanleyw808
Hello mlax,

Drive Train is not "Change" in a big way but more to "Refined" way.. It will come with a TRUE Straight Cut Bevel and Pinion Gears (NEW) with a smaller 5x11x4mm Pinion Bearing (Very Important in relation with Friction)..

Diff Access would still be the same as the 7..

Cheers..
A 5x11x4 bearing for the pinion!? That's usually a pretty stressed part in the drive train, both friction and reliability might take a hit due to that.
But I guess it will show in good time. Nice car though!
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really ? 5x11x4 ? ah sh*t ! i prefer the good old 16x8x5mm
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Originally Posted by werner sline
really ? 5x11x4 ? ah sh*t ! i prefer the good old 16x8x5mm
Yes it is also my opinion. The good old one are the best.
10 years ago i use the 5x11x4 in a Kyosho ahhhh not good.


The HDT Diffs must me ran in or have this diffs other O-Rings which are better than the old one in the 7R ?
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Originally Posted by stanleyw808
Hello mlax,

Drive Train is not "Change" in a big way but more to "Refined" way.. It will come with a TRUE Straight Cut Bevel and Pinion Gears (NEW) with a smaller 5x11x4mm Pinion Bearing (Very Important in relation with Friction)..

Diff Access would still be the same as the 7..

Cheers..
Diff access is different, from looking at the pics, I would say it will be easier to get to the diffs...
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Bodies fit? New stock body?
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