5LikesTeam Titan ARC R10 190mm EP Touring Car
02-10-2014, 04:58 PM
#886
ARC was still looking at the thread and asked me to post this in answer to Govert's question:
"Basically if you use shorter bell crank and less shim (more backward) , you will have more ackerman angle.
use longer bell crank and more shim (more forward) , you will have less ackerman angle."
"Basically if you use shorter bell crank and less shim (more backward) , you will have more ackerman angle.
use longer bell crank and more shim (more forward) , you will have less ackerman angle."
02-10-2014, 04:59 PM
#887
just installed the floating motor mount, now my pinion does fit, the motor doesn't move far enough forward, and even it did, the pinion still hits the inside motor mount support.
I know a lot of people are using them so I'm assuming I did something wrong..
pics of your install please
I know a lot of people are using them so I'm assuming I did something wrong..
pics of your install please
02-10-2014, 05:05 PM
#888
figured it out, took off the new upright support and went back to the stock one.
02-10-2014, 05:05 PM
#889
02-10-2014, 08:18 PM
#890
Tech Master
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Congrats Sean with the early success car. TQ and a win leaving the competition in the dust scratching their heads. I told you from the get go that you would love the car
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Thanks for the heads up about the DCJ axles. I just check all three of my r10s and all six axles were crossed
. My first two sets are almost a year old and my newest set is about a month old. I too thought it was funky that my new set chattered at full lock. Gives me a good reason to rebuild/lube the axles. 
. Thanks for the heads up about the DCJ axles. I just check all three of my r10s and all six axles were crossed
. My first two sets are almost a year old and my newest set is about a month old. I too thought it was funky that my new set chattered at full lock. Gives me a good reason to rebuild/lube the axles.
02-10-2014, 10:03 PM
#891
Make Sure that if and when you do buy the ARC double Jointed shafts, you check the pin positions, make sure you fully dismantle the joints and grease them accordingly before running them. While reassembling the shafts assembly make sure that the pins are on the same axis. Out of the box or package the pins are not on the same axis which will causes binding.
02-11-2014, 01:48 AM
#893
Tech Regular
ARC was still looking at the thread and asked me to post this in answer to Govert's question:
"Basically if you use shorter bell crank and less shim (more backward) , you will have more ackerman angle.
use longer bell crank and more shim (more forward) , you will have less ackerman angle."
"Basically if you use shorter bell crank and less shim (more backward) , you will have more ackerman angle.
use longer bell crank and more shim (more forward) , you will have less ackerman angle."
This means, the steering rods would be angled quite much. Is this correct and does this provide less ackermann?
In some cars, like TRF, the straighter the rods are positioned, the least of ackermann is provided. But if I get it right, the ARC shows opposite (like Xray always had/has).
Reminds me, what is the standard bell crank (steering arm) lenght? 18, 20 or maybe 22mm?
Last edited by Govert; 02-11-2014 at 05:21 AM.
02-11-2014, 11:08 AM
#894
So basically, when I use standard bell crank (ARC-R101060) and just shim more and more, the ackermann would be less?
This means, the steering rods would be angled quite much. Is this correct and does this provide less ackermann?
In some cars, like TRF, the straighter the rods are positioned, the least of ackermann is provided. But if I get it right, the ARC shows opposite (like Xray always had/has).
Reminds me, what is the standard bell crank (steering arm) lenght? 18, 20 or maybe 22mm?
This means, the steering rods would be angled quite much. Is this correct and does this provide less ackermann?
In some cars, like TRF, the straighter the rods are positioned, the least of ackermann is provided. But if I get it right, the ARC shows opposite (like Xray always had/has).
Reminds me, what is the standard bell crank (steering arm) lenght? 18, 20 or maybe 22mm?
02-11-2014, 11:47 AM
#895
Tech Regular
Let me put it this way; Is it right when I state that:
22mm bell crank combined with (let's say) 0mm shims is equal to 18mm bell crank combined with 4mm shims (makes 22mm total).
My main questions stays, what do I have to do to reduce ackermann?
02-11-2014, 03:01 PM
#896
Longer cranks won't give exactly the same effect as more spacers.
The ackermann on this car works just like the ackermann on the other cars you mention. To have less ackermann (less difference in angle between the front wheels) use longer cranks or more spacers, to have more ackermann do the opposite.
The ackermann on this car works just like the ackermann on the other cars you mention. To have less ackermann (less difference in angle between the front wheels) use longer cranks or more spacers, to have more ackermann do the opposite.
02-11-2014, 03:54 PM
#897
Tech Regular
Longer cranks won't give exactly the same effect as more spacers.
The ackermann on this car works just like the ackermann on the other cars you mention. To have less ackermann (less difference in angle between the front wheels) use longer cranks or more spacers, to have more ackermann do the opposite.
The ackermann on this car works just like the ackermann on the other cars you mention. To have less ackermann (less difference in angle between the front wheels) use longer cranks or more spacers, to have more ackermann do the opposite.
02-11-2014, 05:21 PM
#898
02-11-2014, 07:50 PM
#900