14LikesTamiya F104 Pro!
06-11-2009, 11:20 PM
#151
Hy!
When i use the F104 Diff and Carbon rear shaft on a F103, is the rear then also narrower or does only the new F104 wheels affect the width of the car?
Greetings Blueman
When i use the F104 Diff and Carbon rear shaft on a F103, is the rear then also narrower or does only the new F104 wheels affect the width of the car?
Greetings Blueman
06-12-2009, 12:23 AM
#152
Tech Initiate
If using F103 wheel (don't need to have trust bearing inside the F103 wheel) -> same width as orginal F103
06-12-2009, 12:31 AM
#153
Tech Initiate
Thanks for your idea.
however, the T plate are not interchangable
06-12-2009, 06:16 AM
#154
06-15-2009, 07:53 PM
#158
I'm not so excited over the rear T-bar, as I find it a part that will break in an accident. One thing I don't get is the Motor Pod Plate is made of plastic. or rather carbon reinforced plastic.
Is the motor mount taller than the F103's? Did they change the ride height to higher? Sorry that I have been asking so many questions, but these are potentially the changes I see when they changed the diameter of the tires and wheels.
Thanks in advance, and for the picture of the motor mount you'd posted.
Alfie
Is the motor mount taller than the F103's? Did they change the ride height to higher? Sorry that I have been asking so many questions, but these are potentially the changes I see when they changed the diameter of the tires and wheels.
Thanks in advance, and for the picture of the motor mount you'd posted.
Alfie
06-15-2009, 08:16 PM
#159
Tech Initiate
If you really wanna reduce the height of the friction plate to fine tune the car, there is still a solution. You may use the F103 C1 and using the F104 C2,C3 and C4 to build the motor mount
06-15-2009, 08:26 PM
#160
Tech Initiate
I'm not so excited over the rear T-bar, as I find it a part that will break in an accident. One thing I don't get is the Motor Pod Plate is made of plastic. or rather carbon reinforced plastic.
Is the motor mount taller than the F103's? Did they change the ride height to higher? Sorry that I have been asking so many questions, but these are potentially the changes I see when they changed the diameter of the tires and wheels.
Thanks in advance, and for the picture of the motor mount you'd posted.
Alfie
Is the motor mount taller than the F103's? Did they change the ride height to higher? Sorry that I have been asking so many questions, but these are potentially the changes I see when they changed the diameter of the tires and wheels.
Thanks in advance, and for the picture of the motor mount you'd posted.
Alfie
06-15-2009, 09:42 PM
#163
Tech Initiate
Sorry, i was busy to prepare for the TCS race last weekend, so didn't update here.
I did run the F104 on 1 of the qualify and here is the result (while it is an outdoor track, traction are different from time to time, so i will post the 2nd place driver who run F103R on all Qualify and main as a reference)
me:
Q1 27/5:01 -F103R
Q2 27/5:07 -F104Pro
Q3 29/5:07 -F103R TQ
main 29/5:02 -F103R A-Main 1st
reference:
Q1 28/5:08
Q2 28/5:03
Q3 28/5:00
main 29/5:09 A-Main 2nd
So i assume if I ran the F103R on the second Qualify, the result should be around 28/5:00 to 28/5:06, so currently F104 still a lap slower than the F103R on my hand and still need some work on setup.
I had talk to another driver who also drove a F104Pro
we both agreed on the following
- F104 are more stable at the in-field and easier to pass thru the traffic at the in-field. The reason is the rear is always stick to the ground, it won't spin out even you have a big movement on the steering or change the direction suddently.
- On the stright, it is a different story, it is too sensitive to our steering input, and the full throttle point before the stright are later than the F103R.
- And a funny thing we found on the F104 is, you can brake anywhere you want (an exteme example is full brake, full steering at the end of stright, the car won't spin out like F103)
And both of us think we could have a faster lap if we can true our tires, the F104 tire and wheel is sold out, so we can't try this yet.
i don't have much time to spend on the F104 last weekend, i guess if I put a harder spring at the front, I may able to get a faster lap too
I did run the F104 on 1 of the qualify and here is the result (while it is an outdoor track, traction are different from time to time, so i will post the 2nd place driver who run F103R on all Qualify and main as a reference)
me:
Q1 27/5:01 -F103R
Q2 27/5:07 -F104Pro
Q3 29/5:07 -F103R TQ
main 29/5:02 -F103R A-Main 1st
reference:
Q1 28/5:08
Q2 28/5:03
Q3 28/5:00
main 29/5:09 A-Main 2nd
So i assume if I ran the F103R on the second Qualify, the result should be around 28/5:00 to 28/5:06, so currently F104 still a lap slower than the F103R on my hand and still need some work on setup.
I had talk to another driver who also drove a F104Pro
we both agreed on the following
- F104 are more stable at the in-field and easier to pass thru the traffic at the in-field. The reason is the rear is always stick to the ground, it won't spin out even you have a big movement on the steering or change the direction suddently.
- On the stright, it is a different story, it is too sensitive to our steering input, and the full throttle point before the stright are later than the F103R.
- And a funny thing we found on the F104 is, you can brake anywhere you want (an exteme example is full brake, full steering at the end of stright, the car won't spin out like F103)
And both of us think we could have a faster lap if we can true our tires, the F104 tire and wheel is sold out, so we can't try this yet.
i don't have much time to spend on the F104 last weekend, i guess if I put a harder spring at the front, I may able to get a faster lap too
