Fukuyama Batteries
12-01-2003, 02:37 PM
#2131
Tech Adept
wierd problem
hi all,
first off, thanks heaps to fukuyama for great packs, great service, great prices, etc etc. I ordered my packs on thursday morning, and they got here (Australia) on monday morning... how the hell do you guys do that??
however, i have one small problem... i run a bone stock factory team tc3, haven't done any mods at all to it. my fuku packs were assembled by you guys with deans probars, and they don't seem to sit properly in the car. all my other packs fit fine (although these are my first gp3300's). It seems like the problem is that the deans probars have a higher profile than other bars, so the pack is wider. this means it is a very snug fit in between the two walls on either side of the cells. i think the actual problem, though, is that the slots for the cells aren't long enough. i don't think i'm explaining this very well, but i dont have a digi camera so i can't really show you what i mean...
has anyone else running a tc3 with fuku-assembled packs had this problem? (even if you think all is fine, pls checkyour car to make sure because it is only a small thing and you might not have noticed it at first)
first off, thanks heaps to fukuyama for great packs, great service, great prices, etc etc. I ordered my packs on thursday morning, and they got here (Australia) on monday morning... how the hell do you guys do that??
however, i have one small problem... i run a bone stock factory team tc3, haven't done any mods at all to it. my fuku packs were assembled by you guys with deans probars, and they don't seem to sit properly in the car. all my other packs fit fine (although these are my first gp3300's). It seems like the problem is that the deans probars have a higher profile than other bars, so the pack is wider. this means it is a very snug fit in between the two walls on either side of the cells. i think the actual problem, though, is that the slots for the cells aren't long enough. i don't think i'm explaining this very well, but i dont have a digi camera so i can't really show you what i mean...
has anyone else running a tc3 with fuku-assembled packs had this problem? (even if you think all is fine, pls checkyour car to make sure because it is only a small thing and you might not have noticed it at first)
12-01-2003, 02:47 PM
#2132
first off, thanks heaps to fukuyama for great packs, great service, great prices, etc etc
Dan YGPM back!
12-01-2003, 02:51 PM
#2133
Tech Adept
lol probably... if i can fit the packs in car!
12-01-2003, 02:57 PM
#2134
3300'S are a little bigger than the 3000's. That's more than likely your problem. Most guys I know that run TC3's have the spine milled out to move the packs toward the center so it was never an issue with them. When I ran a TC3 it never was for that reason.
12-01-2003, 03:01 PM
#2135
The Cells are wider but the bars stick out more then other bars do such as the SMC Battery Bars or the Pro-Bar 2's by Deans. You can do one of two things.... Mill the Brace... or unsolder the batter packs and then take a hammer and smash the bars flat and then resolder.
If it was me I would mill the Chassis and then Unsolder the packs and get the SMC Bars myself
If it was me I would mill the Chassis and then Unsolder the packs and get the SMC Bars myself
12-01-2003, 03:11 PM
#2136
Maj. Teeth
Got my packs today, what a nice suprise. Thanks a lot!!!
Nice to have an unfair advantage LOL.
Got my packs today, what a nice suprise. Thanks a lot!!!
Nice to have an unfair advantage LOL.
12-01-2003, 03:17 PM
#2137
Originally posted by Rory
lol probably... if i can fit the packs in car!
lol probably... if i can fit the packs in car!
First off, thanks for the props! it is customers like you that makes all happens!
Secondly, I don't quite understand your problem but would like to help anyway I can. Are you using Euro Plugs? or hard-wiring? here's a picture I just took on a TC3.
Thanks.
DAn
12-01-2003, 03:18 PM
#2138
Another picture
Here's another picture of the batteries in the TC3 and it fits perfectly with the Deans 2.0 bars.
Dan
Dan
12-01-2003, 03:19 PM
#2139
Originally posted by psmart2
Maj. Teeth
Got my packs today, what a nice suprise. Thanks a lot!!!
Nice to have an unfair advantage LOL.
Maj. Teeth
Got my packs today, what a nice suprise. Thanks a lot!!!
Nice to have an unfair advantage LOL.
Dan
12-01-2003, 03:21 PM
#2140
Originally posted by Maj. Teeth
Hi Rory,
First off, thanks for the props! it is customers like you that makes all happens!
Secondly, I don't quite understand your problem but would like to help anyway I can. Are you using Euro Plugs? or hard-wiring? here's a picture I just took on a TC3.
Thanks.
DAn
Hi Rory,
First off, thanks for the props! it is customers like you that makes all happens!
Secondly, I don't quite understand your problem but would like to help anyway I can. Are you using Euro Plugs? or hard-wiring? here's a picture I just took on a TC3.
Thanks.
DAn
Dan
12-01-2003, 03:27 PM
#2141
Originally posted by Maj. Teeth
Hi Rory,
First off, thanks for the props! it is customers like you that makes all happens!
Secondly, I don't quite understand your problem but would like to help anyway I can. Are you using Euro Plugs? or hard-wiring? here's a picture I just took on a TC3.
Thanks.
DAn
Hi Rory,
First off, thanks for the props! it is customers like you that makes all happens!
Secondly, I don't quite understand your problem but would like to help anyway I can. Are you using Euro Plugs? or hard-wiring? here's a picture I just took on a TC3.
Thanks.
DAn
Dan
12-01-2003, 03:32 PM
#2142
last one
Here's a bottom shot of the GP batteries. They have less then 2mm from top to bottom so the fit is a little tight but no problems.
I don't suppose made a tighter chassis for the FTCT3? this car was bought at the end of last year.
Dan
I don't suppose made a tighter chassis for the FTCT3? this car was bought at the end of last year.
Dan
12-01-2003, 03:34 PM
#2143
Tech Adept
well your packs do appear to fit at least better than mine... can't really see from the photo though. my packs do actually fit in the car, but they sit on a (very) slight angle. it is probably most obvious when looked at from the bottom of the car, as on one side the cells aren't sitting in the slots on one side.
when you look at the chassis without a pack in it, you see how on the side closer to the centre of the chassis, there is less space between the slots and the centre bracing than on the other side? with the pack in the car, the only way it fits is if it's a little too far out towards the edge of the car, so the cell is just resting on the edge of the slot, rather than sitting in it properly
by the way, i use deans plugs, connected to the cell via a bent over battery bar (the same as what you've done in the picture, but with wire & plug attached)
i will probably just end up borrowing a dremel and removing some of the centre brace, but i just wanted to know if anyone else had had the problem and knew of another way to fix it before i start ripping into the car with a power tool
EDIT: looking at this latest post of yours, on my car there is more room on the inside edge of the slots, but on the outside edge the cells aren't even inside the slots (they're very close, but not quite). It's as though the slots need to be moved a tiny bit
it may be that associated slightly changed their chassis mould (sp) for whatever reason, i bought mine quite recently (september if i remember rightly)
the car is actually quite runnable like this, i'm just a bit worried about things like CG and wear & tear (don't ask me how this would create any extra wear & tear, it's just a feeling ok?)
when you look at the chassis without a pack in it, you see how on the side closer to the centre of the chassis, there is less space between the slots and the centre bracing than on the other side? with the pack in the car, the only way it fits is if it's a little too far out towards the edge of the car, so the cell is just resting on the edge of the slot, rather than sitting in it properly
by the way, i use deans plugs, connected to the cell via a bent over battery bar (the same as what you've done in the picture, but with wire & plug attached)
i will probably just end up borrowing a dremel and removing some of the centre brace, but i just wanted to know if anyone else had had the problem and knew of another way to fix it before i start ripping into the car with a power tool
EDIT: looking at this latest post of yours, on my car there is more room on the inside edge of the slots, but on the outside edge the cells aren't even inside the slots (they're very close, but not quite). It's as though the slots need to be moved a tiny bit
it may be that associated slightly changed their chassis mould (sp) for whatever reason, i bought mine quite recently (september if i remember rightly)
the car is actually quite runnable like this, i'm just a bit worried about things like CG and wear & tear (don't ask me how this would create any extra wear & tear, it's just a feeling ok?)
Last edited by Rory; 12-01-2003 at 03:42 PM.
12-01-2003, 04:03 PM
#2144
Originally posted by Rory
well your packs do appear to fit at least better than mine... can't really see from the photo though. my packs do actually fit in the car, but they sit on a (very) slight angle. it is probably most obvious when looked at from the bottom of the car, as on one side the cells aren't sitting in the slots on one side.
when you look at the chassis without a pack in it, you see how on the side closer to the centre of the chassis, there is less space between the slots and the centre bracing than on the other side? with the pack in the car, the only way it fits is if it's a little too far out towards the edge of the car, so the cell is just resting on the edge of the slot, rather than sitting in it properly
by the way, i use deans plugs, connected to the cell via a bent over battery bar (the same as what you've done in the picture, but with wire & plug attached)
i will probably just end up borrowing a dremel and removing some of the centre brace, but i just wanted to know if anyone else had had the problem and knew of another way to fix it before i start ripping into the car with a power tool
EDIT: looking at this latest post of yours, on my car there is more room on the inside edge of the slots, but on the outside edge the cells aren't even inside the slots (they're very close, but not quite). It's as though the slots need to be moved a tiny bit
it may be that associated slightly changed their chassis mould (sp) for whatever reason, i bought mine quite recently (september if i remember rightly)
the car is actually quite runnable like this, i'm just a bit worried about things like CG and wear & tear (don't ask me how this would create any extra wear & tear, it's just a feeling ok?)
well your packs do appear to fit at least better than mine... can't really see from the photo though. my packs do actually fit in the car, but they sit on a (very) slight angle. it is probably most obvious when looked at from the bottom of the car, as on one side the cells aren't sitting in the slots on one side.
when you look at the chassis without a pack in it, you see how on the side closer to the centre of the chassis, there is less space between the slots and the centre bracing than on the other side? with the pack in the car, the only way it fits is if it's a little too far out towards the edge of the car, so the cell is just resting on the edge of the slot, rather than sitting in it properly
by the way, i use deans plugs, connected to the cell via a bent over battery bar (the same as what you've done in the picture, but with wire & plug attached)
i will probably just end up borrowing a dremel and removing some of the centre brace, but i just wanted to know if anyone else had had the problem and knew of another way to fix it before i start ripping into the car with a power tool
EDIT: looking at this latest post of yours, on my car there is more room on the inside edge of the slots, but on the outside edge the cells aren't even inside the slots (they're very close, but not quite). It's as though the slots need to be moved a tiny bit
it may be that associated slightly changed their chassis mould (sp) for whatever reason, i bought mine quite recently (september if i remember rightly)
the car is actually quite runnable like this, i'm just a bit worried about things like CG and wear & tear (don't ask me how this would create any extra wear & tear, it's just a feeling ok?)
Dan
12-01-2003, 04:08 PM
#2145
Tech Adept
I know the soldering job was ok since I personally did those packs since our technician were on vacation
I've extended the slots a bit with a file and they appear to fit better now, i can't really tell whether they fit properly now or not but it should do for now at least
thanks for all your help