Keep it Cool
10-24-2006, 01:29 AM
#18
Tech Master
I wonder exactly how much faster would a person be... w/ extra weight and a price tag of 280 USD? Would it make a differenece to a newb (like someone who has just learnt to move around the track?) or would you guys think this thing would only make a difference to those pros that need every 0.01s ?
10-24-2006, 07:47 AM
#19
Originally Posted by rcnewb2004
I wonder exactly how much faster would a person be... w/ extra weight and a price tag of 280 USD? Would it make a differenece to a newb (like someone who has just learnt to move around the track?) or would you guys think this thing would only make a difference to those pros that need every 0.01s ?
A newbe should just run and race 27T and maybe 19T once they get the hang of chassis setup and can run for 5 mintutes without hitting anything.
That is the most important thing, getting around the track smoothly will yeild better laptimes than a car that has a cooler motor.
Plus most guys us the Pharriswheel style of precooling. It works well, and yeilds better motor temps, for less wear on the motor.
Hope that helps,
-Shookie <><
10-24-2006, 10:17 AM
#21
Tech Master
i guess the question was, where is that "line" between "yes it will make me faster", "no it will not make me faster" for a gadget like this.
i guess for me... its keep practicing...
i guess for me... its keep practicing...
10-24-2006, 02:03 PM
#23
Originally Posted by rcnewb2004
I wonder exactly how much faster would a person be... w/ extra weight and a price tag of 280 USD? Would it make a differenece to a newb (like someone who has just learnt to move around the track?) or would you guys think this thing would only make a difference to those pros that need every 0.01s ?
10-24-2006, 02:08 PM
#24
I just cant see it worth the hefty price tag. I'd rather use a Much More peltier cooler before the race and use heatsinks + small fan on the car during a race. Has been keeping my motor cool enough not to affect its performance.
10-24-2006, 02:51 PM
#25
Originally Posted by Jan Larsen
Do you have a link to those cooling jackets? Sounds interesting!
I'm having a look for a picture on the net of the cooling jackets, if not i'll photograph one in my boat and post it as soon as i can..... I think graupner might have a picture on there website under the boat section.....
10-24-2006, 03:37 PM
#26
This is a picture of the water jackets that i use in my elec. boats
this would offer better cooling than the manufactures manifold as is has a lager surface area....
this would offer better cooling than the manufactures manifold as is has a lager surface area....
10-24-2006, 04:55 PM
#27
Tech Regular
What happens to the traction if some guys tube comes off during a carpet race leaving fluid on the track?? 
10-24-2006, 05:34 PM
#28
Originally Posted by bs6ef
This is a picture of the water jackets that i use in my elec. boats
this would offer better cooling than the manufactures manifold as is has a lager surface area....
this would offer better cooling than the manufactures manifold as is has a lager surface area....
Stick to a cooling fan which blows fresh air into the brushed area.
10-25-2006, 01:58 AM
#29
Tech Rookie
10-25-2006, 02:08 AM
#30
Tech Initiate
Its an interesting point that you have made about the quantity of coolant in the system.
We conducted many experiments, including adding resevoirs to dramatically increase the amount of water in the system.
We found that this makes no diiference to the cooling effect, but simply adds weight and complexity to the system. Perhaps surprisingly when you first think about it, we also found that the flow rate has practically no effect on the efficiency of the system either.
The most critical thing is the design of the radiator and internal design of the cooling manifold. Through careful development of these parts we have been able to gain the most advantade, and make the system extremely effective.
A typical twin fan setup, which many drivers use, will lower the temp about 8 or 9 degs Celcius and draws 250-300mA from your cells (about 2 watts)
The TCS will typically reduce temperatures by 20 degs Celcius and in some circumstances a lot more, yet only draws 40mA (less than 0.5 watts).
Please look at the site where we have added some other background information http://www.tcscooling.com/data.html
Hope this helps
Richard Weatherley
TCS
We conducted many experiments, including adding resevoirs to dramatically increase the amount of water in the system.
We found that this makes no diiference to the cooling effect, but simply adds weight and complexity to the system. Perhaps surprisingly when you first think about it, we also found that the flow rate has practically no effect on the efficiency of the system either.
The most critical thing is the design of the radiator and internal design of the cooling manifold. Through careful development of these parts we have been able to gain the most advantade, and make the system extremely effective.
A typical twin fan setup, which many drivers use, will lower the temp about 8 or 9 degs Celcius and draws 250-300mA from your cells (about 2 watts)
The TCS will typically reduce temperatures by 20 degs Celcius and in some circumstances a lot more, yet only draws 40mA (less than 0.5 watts).
Please look at the site where we have added some other background information http://www.tcscooling.com/data.html
Hope this helps
Richard Weatherley
TCS