What about the generic brands?
04-07-2010, 06:19 PM
#76
Hakmazter do not waste your time its a never ending battle. Most people choose because they ride the band wagon. To me in the end its all driver. I am sure those drivers on Neobuggy could easily run a different car and the results would be the same. If a company has no driver winning then people think the car sucks all of a sudden. Jammin had Adam Drake, Jammin was the shit, now Losi has Adam Drake Losi is the shit and now Jammin is not even mentioned in this thread even though the car has not changed much since Adam Drake drove it. Go figure.
04-07-2010, 06:55 PM
#77
Hakmazter do not waste your time its a never ending battle. Most people choose because they ride the band wagon. To me in the end its all driver. I am sure those drivers on Neobuggy could easily run a different car and the results would be the same. If a company has no driver winning then people think the car sucks all of a sudden. Jammin had Adam Drake, Jammin was the shit, now Losi has Adam Drake Losi is the shit and now Jammin is not even mentioned in this thread even though the car has not changed much since Adam Drake drove it. Go figure.
Thus lies the problem...
04-07-2010, 08:42 PM
#78
This all so completely stupid. These are RC Cars. Just to reply to some of the comments here, one guy said he would not drive a Caster until they become a major player but he drives a hotbodies. So I guess ONE yes ONE big race makes someone a major player yet nobody else in the US in races after that has really done anything with it if Drake, Truhe, Mayfield, Tebo etc are there.
X-ray IS a copy of a LOSI's design so guess there not a real company for not designing there own car.
How about Odonnels? Might as well be a Gold looking Kyosho. Magazines have even said it is very Kyosho'ish. So they did not design THERE own car either.
Oh, what about when every Associated driver was racing a KYOSHO with Associated stickers before the RC8T came out. What was that for? They cant design there own car? They can sure MISLEAD people into thinking a RC8T non production model was winning though. Now that is bad.
Kyosho, Associated, Jammin, All use C-hub and have interchangeable parts but none are considered copies
Losi, X-ray all have there style front suspension and interchangeable parts but are not considered copies
Caster, Mugen have PBS suspension and interchangeable parts but Caster is considered a copy. Everyone stop hating.
I have had Mugens, Kyosho's, Associated's and Losi's and I can say Caster is just as good. If any of you people's complaints are from 1 year or more ago you might as well not say anything because its not the same materials or car PERIOD and have no merit toward judging the car now.
What Hakmazter was saying about other brands having problems, He did not just mean hotbodies. Hotbodies had that huge problem with then came out with CVD's braking, they got a pass. The mugen MBX6R had chassis cracking at the motor mounts when they came out, they got a free pass, MBX6T had front arms breaking when it was released, they got a free pass, Kyosho everyone knows is extremely fast but fragile, also known as a diff eater even till today, they get a free pass. Why everyone look the other way for these cars and not some others.
I dont have anything bad to say about any other brands. There all good and I broke stuff on all of them. Do I hold it against them, NO. Everyone that has complained here about a certain brand has never owned one. NEVER! and the ones who have owned one praise it, even though they no longer have it. Go figure.
This might be food for thought. I have had 1 car I never ever ever ever broke a part on in 1 year of running only on race tracks. Guess what it was....... a REDCAT HURRICANE 1/8 buggy. Oh and the REDCAT MONSOON 1/8 Truggy I only broke 1 toe plate in 1 year of owning it. So I guess all my mainstream brands have not been superior? Weird.
Im done. Write what you will....................
X-ray IS a copy of a LOSI's design so guess there not a real company for not designing there own car.
How about Odonnels? Might as well be a Gold looking Kyosho. Magazines have even said it is very Kyosho'ish. So they did not design THERE own car either.
Oh, what about when every Associated driver was racing a KYOSHO with Associated stickers before the RC8T came out. What was that for? They cant design there own car? They can sure MISLEAD people into thinking a RC8T non production model was winning though. Now that is bad.
Kyosho, Associated, Jammin, All use C-hub and have interchangeable parts but none are considered copies
Losi, X-ray all have there style front suspension and interchangeable parts but are not considered copies
Caster, Mugen have PBS suspension and interchangeable parts but Caster is considered a copy. Everyone stop hating.
I have had Mugens, Kyosho's, Associated's and Losi's and I can say Caster is just as good. If any of you people's complaints are from 1 year or more ago you might as well not say anything because its not the same materials or car PERIOD and have no merit toward judging the car now.
What Hakmazter was saying about other brands having problems, He did not just mean hotbodies. Hotbodies had that huge problem with then came out with CVD's braking, they got a pass. The mugen MBX6R had chassis cracking at the motor mounts when they came out, they got a free pass, MBX6T had front arms breaking when it was released, they got a free pass, Kyosho everyone knows is extremely fast but fragile, also known as a diff eater even till today, they get a free pass. Why everyone look the other way for these cars and not some others.
I dont have anything bad to say about any other brands. There all good and I broke stuff on all of them. Do I hold it against them, NO. Everyone that has complained here about a certain brand has never owned one. NEVER! and the ones who have owned one praise it, even though they no longer have it. Go figure.
This might be food for thought. I have had 1 car I never ever ever ever broke a part on in 1 year of running only on race tracks. Guess what it was....... a REDCAT HURRICANE 1/8 buggy. Oh and the REDCAT MONSOON 1/8 Truggy I only broke 1 toe plate in 1 year of owning it. So I guess all my mainstream brands have not been superior? Weird.
Im done. Write what you will....................
04-07-2010, 08:55 PM
#79
Tech Regular
I have owned and driven both buggies and truggies.The similarities end with looks.These cars handle completely differently.Mugen is a very highend refined racecar.Caster is a less expensive basic platform based on the 5 series of Mugens.The new Caster truggy has an extended chassis and improved gearing along with other improvements from the previously flawed design.Caster is getting better but is not onpar with Mugens.That being said Caster cars handl3 pretty well and Besides a spur gear I never broke a single part on my Caster buggy.For the price they are a good value.Understand that Mugen is probably the best rc vehicle made looking at performance and durability.So it's really not a fair comparison...Caster is trying hard to improve it's cars and have gotten better with every new release.Give them a break at least they're trying.As far as the off brands go Caster is probably one of the best ones and that's what this thread is about.
04-07-2010, 09:10 PM
#80
This all so completely stupid. These are RC Cars. Just to reply to some of the comments here, one guy said he would not drive a Caster until they become a major player but he drives a hotbodies. So I guess ONE yes ONE big race makes someone a major player yet nobody else in the US in races after that has really done anything with it if Drake, Truhe, Mayfield, Tebo etc are there.
So I would say they have done more than ONE race. You can check my signature. I DO NOT even run a Hotbodies vehicle, but do respect that they are a contender at the local, regional, national and worlds level. Not just the drivers that they support but also the vehicles that they make.
Like I said, I have nothing to add the the Pro Caster/Anti Caster flame war, but I will add this. Hotbodies has made much more of a name for itself than Caster has to this point. If I were you, I would aim to make as much a name for Caster as Hotbodies has done for themselves, instead of trying to knock them.
By the way I agree about the Xray thing.
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04-08-2010, 11:07 AM
#81
I don't mean to get into the pissing match here, and have nothing to add in that matter, however Hotbodies has done much more than winning the worlds to earn their spot. In fact Hotbodies has been in the mix of things for a very long time. They were one of the original truggies and a very big part in the growth of the class. Without the Hotbodies LSP there may never have been a serious truggy racing class. Also if we want to talk about racing and race wins, Ty Tessman has been a contender and winner in many recent races(winning truggy at the Nitro Challenge this past February). Not to mention Jesse Robbers' success with Hotbodies cars at national level races(such as the CRCRC nitro champs this past January).
So I would say they have done more than ONE race. You can check my signature. I DO NOT even run a Hotbodies vehicle, but do respect that they are a contender at the local, regional, national and worlds level. Not just the drivers that they support but also the vehicles that they make.
Like I said, I have nothing to add the the Pro Caster/Anti Caster flame war, but I will add this. Hotbodies has made much more of a name for itself than Caster has to this point. If I were you, I would aim to make as much a name for Caster as Hotbodies has done for themselves, instead of trying to knock them.
By the way I agree about the Xray thing.............
So I would say they have done more than ONE race. You can check my signature. I DO NOT even run a Hotbodies vehicle, but do respect that they are a contender at the local, regional, national and worlds level. Not just the drivers that they support but also the vehicles that they make.
Like I said, I have nothing to add the the Pro Caster/Anti Caster flame war, but I will add this. Hotbodies has made much more of a name for itself than Caster has to this point. If I were you, I would aim to make as much a name for Caster as Hotbodies has done for themselves, instead of trying to knock them.
By the way I agree about the Xray thing.
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04-08-2010, 12:21 PM
#82
I don't think he's out to knock HB just stating like caster it had it's problems when released much like most cars do. The difference is that if the caster breaks it's a "mugen copied POS" which HB or any other well known companies do it "it was my fault I landed to hard etc." even though the person may have been driving the caster the same way. While I admit we still have to work to get our name out there which is hard because we don't have a Hara,Drake,Truhe,Etc on our team yet and because as soon as we're mentioned people automatically throw us in the snake pit. In the end I don't want to get into a pissing match,flame war, etc. I just want people not to count us out. Give casters a try if you don't like it that's fine but at least try the car out and try different things don't toss the car if you have a bad wreck and it breaks fix it...and also feel free to go to casterracingusa forums for tips to make the car even more bulletproof.
04-08-2010, 12:32 PM
#83
I know he didn't set out to knock HB, but truthfully, that's what he did. My point is HB has done much more than ONE race to earn their reputation. I admit that winning the Worlds only has helped them grow that reputation, but it is certainly not the only thing they have done as vnmsgt would suggest. My other point is it's pretty funny that a Caster supporter would try to belittle HB's reputation when Caster has nothing compared to it(at least not yet). Instead Caster should strive to achieve the reputation that HB has. It's as simple as that.
04-08-2010, 01:02 PM
#84
As for the whole mugen copy thing, I see it. Anyone can see that the Caster vehicles' design has "borrowed" many elements from the design of the mugen MBX5 series of vehicles. I don't say this simply because it uses pillow ball suspension. If you can't admit that they are very close in design you are obviously only trying to hide that fact(which IMO is stupid). Does that mean they should die in a fire? I guess that is personal opinion. Personally I hold no grudge because of that fact.
Anyway I am done with my rambling. I have no ill wishes for Caster and will not say anything negative about them. They do have some work to do to make their name and IMO they can't be considered a "top contender" quite yet. Maybe that will change with time.
04-08-2010, 02:06 PM
#85
I agree, although I think part of the problem people have with Caster is that(and even Caster reps admit this) there vehicles really where very sub-par for a long time. I realize that they have changed that and are still working to further improve their products. But the poor quality of their previous version vehicles has left a bad taste in some people's mouths and I will add that it is rightfully so. Caster has some work to do to get their name back out there and prove that they now make a quality product.
As for the whole mugen copy thing, I see it. Anyone can see that the Caster vehicles' design has "borrowed" many elements from the design of the mugen MBX5 series of vehicles. I don't say this simply because it uses pillow ball suspension. If you can't admit that they are very close in design you are obviously only trying to hide that fact(which IMO is stupid). Does that mean they should die in a fire? I guess that is personal opinion. Personally I hold no grudge because of that fact.
Anyway I am done with my rambling. I have no ill wishes for Caster and will not say anything negative about them. They do have some work to do to make their name and IMO they can't be considered a "top contender" quite yet. Maybe that will change with time.
As for the whole mugen copy thing, I see it. Anyone can see that the Caster vehicles' design has "borrowed" many elements from the design of the mugen MBX5 series of vehicles. I don't say this simply because it uses pillow ball suspension. If you can't admit that they are very close in design you are obviously only trying to hide that fact(which IMO is stupid). Does that mean they should die in a fire? I guess that is personal opinion. Personally I hold no grudge because of that fact.
Anyway I am done with my rambling. I have no ill wishes for Caster and will not say anything negative about them. They do have some work to do to make their name and IMO they can't be considered a "top contender" quite yet. Maybe that will change with time.
Yea the previous models did suck but the newer ones are great. I think out biggest problem now is getting more out on the tracks. In due time we will grow
04-08-2010, 02:32 PM
#86
Tech Rookie
I dont know much about the in crowd but I do know quality. I was always a long time Jammin Fan and literally drove it to the ground. When it finaly died to the point it would cost more to repair then what it was worth I went on a hunt to find something to keep me fixed till next year when I know I had a lil more cash to play with. Im not looking to win any Worlds or any races Im out to have fun on the track with minimal repair. I recently Picked up a Madwarrior. Now I cringed at the thought of owning a knock off truck or El Cheapo but I actually have to say I am very satified with it. Now That Im use toi the style or driving and after a few tweaks and upgrades its not a bad lil ride. I will still pick up a comp truggy for next year because racing is in my blood but I have yet to break anything on the MX track we run at. If your looking at compitition the big names are pretty much where to look becasue of the avalability of parts ect. I looked at Caster as well and parts are hard to find. I have always been a Losi and a Jammin' fan not because of the bandwagon but because the parts are easy to get, Their stuff is well built and I enjoy driving them. But thsi is something that EVERY racer and backyard basher will argue over till the end of time to be the best. Me I am quite happy with my lil offbrand truck and will be even after a big name comes to my house. But as with anything in the industry its to each his own.
04-08-2010, 05:30 PM
#87
I know he didn't set out to knock HB, but truthfully, that's what he did. My point is HB has done much more than ONE race to earn their reputation. I admit that winning the Worlds only has helped them grow that reputation, but it is certainly not the only thing they have done as vnmsgt would suggest. My other point is it's pretty funny that a Caster supporter would try to belittle HB's reputation when Caster has nothing compared to it(at least not yet). Instead Caster should strive to achieve the reputation that HB has. It's as simple as that.
I agree, although I think part of the problem people have with Caster is that(and even Caster reps admit this) there vehicles really where very sub-par for a long time. I realize that they have changed that and are still working to further improve their products. But the poor quality of their previous version vehicles has left a bad taste in some people's mouths and I will add that it is rightfully so. Caster has some work to do to get their name back out there and prove that they now make a quality product.
04-08-2010, 06:03 PM
#88
My apologies if It came out a little wrong. I was in no way try to knock HB. I was just trying to get people to remember what everyone was saying about the HotBodies right before the Worlds. It was a "you get what you pay for" thing with it and because it was so cheap then in no way could it be good, or so people thought. So alot of people never really gave it a chance till it won the Worlds, then it sold like hotcakes, because mainly of one race. Yes Ty has done alot for them.
I AGREE 100% You hit the nail on the head. Its just hard to get people to consider it again because of the past problems. People should give it another look. People still buy losi's even after all the throttle servo issues of the 1.0 plus some diff issues, Tamiya with the Truggy front arms breaking if you look at them wrong, Associated with there Kits they sent out to fix the front of the buggies when they were released, those are a couple more I just remembered, point is everyone has had problems, they redesign them, update them and make it better as time passes. Caster has done this.
I AGREE 100% You hit the nail on the head. Its just hard to get people to consider it again because of the past problems. People should give it another look. People still buy losi's even after all the throttle servo issues of the 1.0 plus some diff issues, Tamiya with the Truggy front arms breaking if you look at them wrong, Associated with there Kits they sent out to fix the front of the buggies when they were released, those are a couple more I just remembered, point is everyone has had problems, they redesign them, update them and make it better as time passes. Caster has done this.
On the topic of issues that have been resolved, you have to remember that those brands you mentioned have/had a much larger following than Caster did. You also have to realize that many people did get upset by those issues that you mentioned and left that particular brand. It's just easier to overlook those people when the following is as large as it is with some brands. For Caster it is harder because they have a smaller following. When there is an issue that upsets some guys and forces them to leave, it is likely that it will impact the following as a whole much more. Just my take on the matter. I'm sure Caster will continue to get their name out there.
