D8 or 808, mbx6, mp9, 2.0
11-15-2008, 04:18 PM
#16
Tech Addict
I've driven a couple D8's, and I'm sorry to say they don't even compare to the Xray 808 in jumping, steering, acceleration, braking, or strength. The sponsored driver I know that runs this buggy rarely finishes his mains. Sorry put a damper on things, but thats the truth, and you pretty much get what you pay for. 
11-15-2008, 04:31 PM
#17
Tech Adept
Having owned an 808 and driven a D8, I'd have to disagree. The D8 is a really solid car, it does everything really well and its supremely planted and predictable. The 808 may be abit faster in certain areas, but the D8 is more consistent.
11-15-2008, 04:38 PM
#18
I'll say go the 2.0 route, or atleast it would be a great choice. For many reasons. I run the car and I do so for a lot of reasons. I do race for losi but here is the thing....
Well before the worlds I looked into what I felt was the best kit overall. I ran several different cars. In the end I went out and spent $5000 and got grp engines, kits, parts, etc to get me going. Why? because I knew regardless I would have support through a very large company should I have any issues. All this before I had any support with losi. You also have very strong team support with Adam Drake, Mike Truhe, Casey Peck, the list just goes on and on. This company is very commited and I felt like they would be unmatched in work ethic and drive. These things trickle down to the consumer and the end result is a great product. The 2.0 you can purchase the same identical car that tq'd the worlds and finished 2nd, the same thing. You need nothing for the car out of the box and is ready for the upper levels of racing out of the box. It's tough, very fast, and can be set up for drivers of all skill levels. Parts support is huge, most local tracks will have several racers with them and if you can;t get it local then any major online store has parts, kit, etc. I have known Adam Drake for many years and recently have got to know mike truhe and the rest of the team, engineers, and even the man in charge at Losi. I have been very impressed with how business is conducted with them and how they treat even the "local Joe" at the track. I can't imagine how this would be the wrong direction for you.
With that said you also have some other good choices there that would make you happy as well. I would like to see you go the Losi route and I am sure they would to. If you have any specific questions you can email me direct @ [email protected], or check the losi threads on here.
Good luck!
Well before the worlds I looked into what I felt was the best kit overall. I ran several different cars. In the end I went out and spent $5000 and got grp engines, kits, parts, etc to get me going. Why? because I knew regardless I would have support through a very large company should I have any issues. All this before I had any support with losi. You also have very strong team support with Adam Drake, Mike Truhe, Casey Peck, the list just goes on and on. This company is very commited and I felt like they would be unmatched in work ethic and drive. These things trickle down to the consumer and the end result is a great product. The 2.0 you can purchase the same identical car that tq'd the worlds and finished 2nd, the same thing. You need nothing for the car out of the box and is ready for the upper levels of racing out of the box. It's tough, very fast, and can be set up for drivers of all skill levels. Parts support is huge, most local tracks will have several racers with them and if you can;t get it local then any major online store has parts, kit, etc. I have known Adam Drake for many years and recently have got to know mike truhe and the rest of the team, engineers, and even the man in charge at Losi. I have been very impressed with how business is conducted with them and how they treat even the "local Joe" at the track. I can't imagine how this would be the wrong direction for you.
With that said you also have some other good choices there that would make you happy as well. I would like to see you go the Losi route and I am sure they would to. If you have any specific questions you can email me direct @ [email protected], or check the losi threads on here.
Good luck!
11-15-2008, 08:32 PM
#19
Tech Addict
I do agree the Losi camp has great parts support and some cool people that make up that company. If your looking for race buggies, its probably the new Losi, Xray, Kyosho, or Mugen that are at the top. They all rock. But don't be fooled by pro drivers results at any race.
Flip a coin!! LOL!
Flip a coin!! LOL!
11-15-2008, 09:39 PM
#21
I don't know but when you have a guy like Graham Alsop showing up at the track to test all the top car and then picking up the D8 as is new ride says a lot... and I am sure that a top pro driver like Alsop know what he is doing..
take a look here.... http://www.hpiracing.co.jp/contents/...pan_Nats01.wmv
take a look here.... http://www.hpiracing.co.jp/contents/...pan_Nats01.wmv
11-15-2008, 10:25 PM
#22
Everyone please keep in mind that driving style has allot to do with the buggy you should choose. You should base your choice on quality and durability first, but then you need to realize that different buggies handle differently, some are made for point and shoot, and some are made for finesse, some are better on power turners, some are better jumpers, etc, etc. You should definitely take your home track into consideration also when looking for a new buggy. If it is a small technical track you might be better suited with a pivot ball design, as they have better steering adjustablility, etc, etc. Dont pick a buggy because it won a few races. Just because someone else can win with it dont mean you can. If you are novice choose something easier to drive, and to work on. There's allot more factors that people should take into consideration before choosing, and not so much what other people think is the best choice.
11-15-2008, 11:17 PM
#24
Everyone please keep in mind that driving style has allot to do with the buggy you should choose. You should base your choice on quality and durability first, but then you need to realize that different buggies handle differently, some are made for point and shoot, and some are made for finesse, some are better on power turners, some are better jumpers, etc, etc. You should definitely take your home track into consideration also when looking for a new buggy. If it is a small technical track you might be better suited with a pivot ball design, as they have better steering adjustablility, etc, etc. Dont pick a buggy because it won a few races. Just because someone else can win with it dont mean you can. If you are novice choose something easier to drive, and to work on. There's allot more factors that people should take into consideration before choosing, and not so much what other people think is the best choice.
11-15-2008, 11:19 PM
#25
i really bieleve tat any of those buggys will be great for you. i would goo with the 2.0 or 808. both alot of lhs carry parts and the parts are cheaper that of hotbodies, mugan and kyosho's
11-16-2008, 07:17 AM
#27
I don't know but when you have a guy like Graham Alsop showing up at the track to test all the top car and then picking up the D8 as is new ride says a lot... and I am sure that a top pro driver like Alsop know what he is doing..
take a look here.... http://www.hpiracing.co.jp/contents/...pan_Nats01.wmv
take a look here.... http://www.hpiracing.co.jp/contents/...pan_Nats01.wmv
11-16-2008, 07:37 AM
#28
I don;t think that is a case of he tested all the top cars and felt the d8 was the best. I think it was more of HB offered him more than the big companies would or could. I'm also willing to bet he has not "tested" all the top cars. He is a great driver and an asset to any team. Just my thoughts though.
female pro driver Rachel Merry from the UK, also left HoBao Racing for Hot Bodies...
11-16-2008, 08:03 AM
#29
One of the best drivers I race with ( not in the same class of course) has been having a tough time finding a buggy that fits his style. He used to drive Losi, then switched to XRAY, and for the past month he has been testing other buggies. I know he has tried the MP9, and the D8. My point is you need to find what fits your style, yes we do race at different tracks, blah, blah, blah.
All I'm saying is it needs to feel right, and he hasn't found one that does yet. He is testing all of the top buggies out there. They are all great, they can all win, but he hasn't liked any of the 4 he has tried yet, because they weren't right for him. I just don't want people to make a $600-$800 mistake just because someone on this forum says, buy this buggy, it's the best! There's no such thing as the best, the best is the one you love, the one that fits your style, and the one YOU can win with.
All I'm saying is it needs to feel right, and he hasn't found one that does yet. He is testing all of the top buggies out there. They are all great, they can all win, but he hasn't liked any of the 4 he has tried yet, because they weren't right for him. I just don't want people to make a $600-$800 mistake just because someone on this forum says, buy this buggy, it's the best! There's no such thing as the best, the best is the one you love, the one that fits your style, and the one YOU can win with.
11-16-2008, 08:05 AM
#30
Tech Addict
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If you were happy with your OCM, then think of the D8 as a cross between it and the 8ight. I moved from the OCM (which I was extremely happy with) to the D8 and I know I made a good choice. In fact, with just 2 hours of practice and using the stock setup, I placed 3rd in the A-main at my local track. Compared to the OCM, the D8 felt lighter on its feet, had better steering, and jumped like a gazelle. I haven't driven the 2.0 version of the 8ight but I did own the original and it was too twitchy for my driving style. Where the 8ight was twitchy, the OCM was very stable but didn't jump or steer like the 8ight. Between these two is where the D8 lives. I can go deep in the corners like I did with the 8ight but it keeps the rear end behind the front when exiting like the OCM. (Before anyone decides they need to jump on and tell me how great the 8ight is, I already know...got it. It just wasn't great for me and how I drive.)
The fact that the winner of the IFMAR worlds won with the D8 should not be a deciding factor in choosing the buggy. As you undoubtedly know, had the final race been on a different day or at a different location, someone else may very well have won driving a Losi, Mugen, Associated, Xray, or any other brand of buggy out there. Four drivers wheeling the D8 and finishing in the top 12 (that is a full 1/3 of the spots for the math challenged), however, does demonstrate that it is definitely good enough to sit at the big table. Statements concerning its durability or ability to finish races can and have been made about every make and model of buggy in existence. Five minutes searching any of the model-specific threads in these forums will yield a multitude of statements to that effect.
My post is not a push for you to buy the D8, it is merely in response to your opening question. Any of the buggies you list would be a good choice if they suit your driving style. Since we both have enjoyed the what the OCM offers, I thought I would give you my impression of the D8 from that perspective. Best of luck on making your choice, I know with the quality of offerings out there right now it is not easy. As a matter of fact, I also have a new MBX6 but don't enough time behind the wheel to say it's better or worse than anything else but I can say that so far I like it a lot.
The fact that the winner of the IFMAR worlds won with the D8 should not be a deciding factor in choosing the buggy. As you undoubtedly know, had the final race been on a different day or at a different location, someone else may very well have won driving a Losi, Mugen, Associated, Xray, or any other brand of buggy out there. Four drivers wheeling the D8 and finishing in the top 12 (that is a full 1/3 of the spots for the math challenged), however, does demonstrate that it is definitely good enough to sit at the big table. Statements concerning its durability or ability to finish races can and have been made about every make and model of buggy in existence. Five minutes searching any of the model-specific threads in these forums will yield a multitude of statements to that effect.
My post is not a push for you to buy the D8, it is merely in response to your opening question. Any of the buggies you list would be a good choice if they suit your driving style. Since we both have enjoyed the what the OCM offers, I thought I would give you my impression of the D8 from that perspective. Best of luck on making your choice, I know with the quality of offerings out there right now it is not easy. As a matter of fact, I also have a new MBX6 but don't enough time behind the wheel to say it's better or worse than anything else but I can say that so far I like it a lot.