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Old 10-09-2011 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by wingracer
Sorry, but that is absolutely and completely wrong. Xceed has had several different tire lines including Jaco made ones. See this page:

http://ashfordhobby.com/detail.aspx?ID=6846

In addition to those, they have also had Italian made and Japanese made lines.
OK, you win.; Jaco tyres are made by Jaco, and the other lines are made by the other manufacturers. But Xceed never MADE Jaco tyres as you said in your first post, they only sold them.

It is not the Jaco tyres we are talking about, it is the tyres made by Xceed.
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Old 10-10-2011 | 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by wingracer
I know nothing about the LRPs specifically but I have never heard of an esc that could not ever use a rx pack. Even if the BEC just has to be bypassed to make it work, you just pull the red wire out.
I'm just looking at getting into 12th and need some info on electrics. Ideally I would reuse my existing sxx tc v1, what do I need to do to make it work and not break rules? Do I buy an rx pack then remove the red wire from the esc to rx?
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Old 10-10-2011 | 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by SlowerOne
OK, you win.; Jaco tyres are made by Jaco, and the other lines are made by the other manufacturers. But Xceed never MADE Jaco tyres as you said in your first post, they only sold them.

It is not the Jaco tyres we are talking about, it is the tyres made by Xceed.
Where in my post did I say that?

Originally Posted by wingracer
There are a couple different types out there. The ones on Jaco wheels ARE Jacos, no difference so if you like Jacos, you will like them.
In other words, the Xceeds on Jaco wheels are made by Jaco, identical to Jacos.

As far as I know, Xceed doesn't actually make ANY tires themselves. They are all re-branded from some other manufacturer such as Jaco, ATS, Matrix, etc.

The poster asked about Xceed tires and I correctly told him that the ones on Prizm wheels are Jacos, so if he likes Jacos, he will like them too. If he is looking at Xceeds on other wheels, I can't help him as I have never run them.

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Old 10-10-2011 | 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by DaveG28
I'm just looking at getting into 12th and need some info on electrics. Ideally I would reuse my existing sxx tc v1, what do I need to do to make it work and not break rules? Do I buy an rx pack then remove the red wire from the esc to rx?
You would probably get a better answer in the LRP thread. I suspect that since it is a TC speedo, you will need a booster or rx pack. You probably would not remove the red wire, just leave the esc switch off but LRP could tell you for sure.

The only way to break any rules is if you somehow figured out a way to wire it up so the rx pack sent power to the motor. Normal set-ups will NOT do this.
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Old 10-10-2011 | 07:28 AM
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Hey all you 1/12 gurus, I am modding my old GenX cause I can to have the steering setup similar to the genXL where the steering links mount inside on the servo saver and I am just playing with angles of the links now

What is the best angle for the links to be at (at center) for the best steering.

This is what I have currently after mounting the Servo in it's new location.




I can move the servo for and aft. I can get close to parallel if I need to but just looking for a good starting point and also what do different angles do.

the Servo is mounted on the angles mounts.
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Old 10-10-2011 | 08:33 AM
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Hey guys question,

For 1/12th 13.5 boosted which motor would be better?D3 13.5 or the Revetech 13.5 this is on a 100'x45 indoor carpet track. Also which rotor would be better the one that comes with the motor or the 1c high rpm rotor?

Any help would be greatly appreciated
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Old 10-10-2011 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by noline
Hey guys question,

For 1/12th 13.5 boosted which motor would be better?D3 13.5 or the Revetech 13.5 this is on a 100'x45 indoor carpet track. Also which rotor would be better the one that comes with the motor or the 1c high rpm rotor?

Any help would be greatly appreciated
The kind of motor you run is not as important as the gearing, and ESC set up. The 3 fastest racers at our track run 3 different motors, a Reedy Sonic, a LRP X-12 and a Trinity Duo 1. If you have no idea, run what one of your fast guys runs so he can help with your set up.
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Old 10-10-2011 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by jdeadman
Hey all you 1/12 gurus, I am modding my old GenX cause I can to have the steering setup similar to the genXL where the steering links mount inside on the servo saver and I am just playing with angles of the links now

What is the best angle for the links to be at (at center) for the best steering.

This is what I have currently after mounting the Servo in it's new location.




I can move the servo for and aft. I can get close to parallel if I need to but just looking for a good starting point and also what do different angles do.

the Servo is mounted on the angles mounts.
I always have my steering rods slightly forward when using the servo angled holders. The tie rods are behind the servo saver and the rods when looking down at the servo saver are again slightly ahead

With the servo in centered position you could provide side shot picture of the links so I can see what angle your rods are at
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Old 10-10-2011 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by jdeadman
Hey all you 1/12 gurus, I am modding my old GenX cause I can to have the steering setup similar to the genXL where the steering links mount inside on the servo saver and I am just playing with angles of the links now

What is the best angle for the links to be at (at center) for the best steering.

This is what I have currently after mounting the Servo in it's new location.




I can move the servo for and aft. I can get close to parallel if I need to but just looking for a good starting point and also what do different angles do.

the Servo is mounted on the angles mounts.
It's not generally a good idea to have the tie-rods angled forward from the servo to the steering block, Most racers run them as straight across the car as they can, a few angle them back slightly. The angle upwards should be adjusted so there is the least amount of toe change as possible as the suspension moves. Based on those pictures I think you need to use some spacers to move your servo forward slightly.
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Old 10-10-2011 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by LonnyJ1950
It's not generally a good idea to have the tie-rods angled forward from the servo to the steering block, Most racers run them as straight across the car as they can, a few angle them back slightly. The angle upwards should be adjusted so there is the least amount of toe change as possible as the suspension moves. Based on those pictures I think you need to use some spacers to move your servo forward slightly.
Jilles and Elliot seem to have theirs "slightly" forward

Slightly = barely forward/almost not...lol

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Old 10-10-2011 | 09:19 AM
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Exactly. Nice pics!
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Old 10-10-2011 | 09:23 AM
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I am totally new to 1/12,I cant figure out why my car lifts 1 rear wheel when turning to the left. I have tried everything i know of,loose wiring(TQ 16ga) loose sensor wire,Ive tried messing with diff tensions(setting),stiffer/softer side springs,stiffer side shock oils.The tires are not chunked. I dont understand it and ive got a big race coming up next weekend,If anybody could help me i would/will totally appreciate it PLEASE , Thanks in advance.The car is an associated 12r5.1 with lipo conversion
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Old 10-10-2011 | 09:29 AM
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If it's just when turning left, it's probably tweak or balance.
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Old 10-10-2011 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by LonnyJ1950
Exactly. Nice pics!
So I bought:

4PL with small receiver
Mylaps transponder
Jaco magenta's Ft/Rr (But ft set doesn't have sunken in bearing deal hence old ones but I think they'll work fine with some spacing)
Top Rebel (this weekend)

Then:

Futaba S9650 servo
Speed Pashion speedo that I think you have? (Carbon fiber color)
Protoform body AMR-12
DuraTrax Onyx 245 AC/DC dual charger

Not sure what motor or batteries maybe Murf-dogg (I would like to support someone local but not sure that will happen though)

I'm closing in ...lol

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Old 10-10-2011 | 10:03 AM
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I have a bunch of downwards angle which I can get rid most of my just moving the servo up a hole on the mount. But I do not get any bump steer at all with the outside tire when compressing the suspension.

here are some more shots. I don't have enough light here but here you go

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