3LikesTLR 22 Racing Buggy Thread
01-12-2011 | 08:11 PM
#1547
Tech Apprentice
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 82
If you check my earlier post on this thread (post number 204) this might help give you an initial indication of the mid vs rear motor characteristics.
Over here in the UK, we have an almost complete reversal in preference as you do - the mid motor is now almost completely dominant. The perceived lack of traction is largely a myth now - the mid cars can generate enough grip in any situation other than except for the first few inches of straight away drive in very slick conditions but by and large, I believe the ultimate decision of rear vs mid is not to do with the traction but to do with the style of track and the type of corners on the track. The mid car has a great advantage in longer, sweeping corners - in a point and shoot hairpin, perhaps the initial drive from a rear car can help in the very slickest of conditions. We ran in freezing conditions on ice-covered astroturf on Sunday and the mid motor car was still the preferred option for our drivers - they do require a different driving style and a different approach to setup though - but once you've adapted, I think the mid car is easier to be more consistent with in virtually any application.
As to why the rear car is more popular in your country? I guess it is largely driven by experience, setup knowledge and the fact that almost all of your pro-racers still run the rear car. Ultimate pace is perhaps not much different (as I'm sure Brian Kinwald can attest to) - the difference is in consistency and also that in a dogfight, the mid car enables you to be more forceful than the rear car - you can attack the corners harder and use the brakes knowing that almost all of your mass is contained within the car's wheelbase - thus you have very little pendulum affect from the weight transfer.
For me, the mid car is faster - but the rear car still has that allure of looking just right and feeling just like a proper 2WD race buggy should feel.
Hope this helps
Over here in the UK, we have an almost complete reversal in preference as you do - the mid motor is now almost completely dominant. The perceived lack of traction is largely a myth now - the mid cars can generate enough grip in any situation other than except for the first few inches of straight away drive in very slick conditions but by and large, I believe the ultimate decision of rear vs mid is not to do with the traction but to do with the style of track and the type of corners on the track. The mid car has a great advantage in longer, sweeping corners - in a point and shoot hairpin, perhaps the initial drive from a rear car can help in the very slickest of conditions. We ran in freezing conditions on ice-covered astroturf on Sunday and the mid motor car was still the preferred option for our drivers - they do require a different driving style and a different approach to setup though - but once you've adapted, I think the mid car is easier to be more consistent with in virtually any application.
As to why the rear car is more popular in your country? I guess it is largely driven by experience, setup knowledge and the fact that almost all of your pro-racers still run the rear car. Ultimate pace is perhaps not much different (as I'm sure Brian Kinwald can attest to) - the difference is in consistency and also that in a dogfight, the mid car enables you to be more forceful than the rear car - you can attack the corners harder and use the brakes knowing that almost all of your mass is contained within the car's wheelbase - thus you have very little pendulum affect from the weight transfer.
For me, the mid car is faster - but the rear car still has that allure of looking just right and feeling just like a proper 2WD race buggy should feel.
Hope this helps
I don't know about anyone else, but my buggy skills are seriously lacking so it can only get better eh 
Now i just need some saddle packs. My wife is going to divorce me when she finds out how much money is secretly going into this thing 
01-12-2011 | 08:47 PM
#1549
Tech Apprentice
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 82
I swear she's got some kind of R/C Radar that hones in on my equipment. I'm thinking a "TLR 22 Divorced Husband Support Group" is in order. You know.... we can all meet at a track somewhere with our 22's ... and.. a..... remember what's important in life.
01-12-2011 | 08:54 PM
#1550
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01-13-2011 | 09:02 AM
#1556
In all seriousness though, good luck. Hope it turns out for the best.
01-13-2011 | 01:26 PM
#1557
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Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 966
From: Wauconda, IL
Thanks man, not saying I will have much to spend if any at all but now if I want to go to a track and spend all day there just hangin out or have the money to race and maybe buy a couple new sets of tires I won't have to worry that I'm going to have to explain myself.
