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Old 05-24-2010 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by RB FIVE
Koby thanks for pitting me. Your the quickest fuel gun in the west. Couldn't have won open buggy without you !!! See you again soon. I am so tired from the traveling !!!

I had a blast. Next time i'm gonna repay the favor and pit you to the win.
Hahaha. Quickest fuel gun in the West. Lol, shouldn't that be the East?

Sounds good bro! I will see you around, no doubt. Good job on the win man!
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Old 05-24-2010 | 06:39 PM
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Congrats to who raced this weekend.
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Old 05-24-2010 | 07:03 PM
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dang, found B5's for 190 bucks

http://www.siteground129.com/~poorbo...0500fa2acd8c9d

don't know how much shipping is though
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Old 05-24-2010 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by hdcruzer
You still need to lean the bottom and fatten the top. Your compensating a fat bottom by running a lean top. Mine runs between 190 and 210. I run a 2013 right now and ran a 2035 before that. Both pipes tune almost the same a hour here or hour there. Mine will set for 20 seconds I nail it and it takes off perfect. No bog at all. If yours is still loading up at idle your still off somewhere.......
Well, after your last post, and referring to the one above, and ron's comments, and the fact that a werks team driver is running a jp4, I had accept the possibility that I still might be missing something and decided to give it another go. Your last post indicated that I should lean the top and fatten the bottom potentially, and this one you suggested it might be the other way 'round. The important part being needle imbalance, something I've warned others about myself, and was honestly sure I had certainly ruled it out.

Welp, you guys were right. Re-tuned, top end ended up being 3/4 turn richer, bottom was about 3/4 - a whole turn leaner, and the idle stop got dropped a lot. The unavoidable high idle is gone, the temps are lower, and the motor feels noticeably better, especially on the low end and transition to full throttle -- I don't have to babysit the throttle to keep it from loading up as much. The best part is that I can knock out both the high and low speed needle setting pretty darn close just on the box by ear -- and neither are more than an hour off after hitting the ground.
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Old 05-24-2010 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by RB FIVE
Koby thanks for pitting me. Your the quickest fuel gun in the west. Couldn't have won open buggy without you !!! See you again soon. I am so tired from the traveling !!!

I had a blast. Next time i'm gonna repay the favor and pit you to the win.
Congrats on the win too!!!
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Old 05-24-2010 | 07:31 PM
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Well i know that Jeremy Kortz will be at the Alabama manufacturers shootout next week and was just wondering how many others will be there piloting the B5? I know mine runs good now but i cant wait to get there and have Kortz put a little tweak on the needles so i can see what this baby will realy do. Thats one of the things i like the most about the big races is the help and suport that comes from the top factory drivers to we average joe's. Never been turned away at any race when asking for help or advice. And Ron, you have one of the coolest ambasadoors to the hobby there is in Jeremy, and also Mike B.
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Old 05-24-2010 | 07:44 PM
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I am hoping to try or get one of these motors but I need a response from someone or else I will move on to the next motor choice.
How does the B5 compare to the B7. Also how will the B5 run with a THS 8015 pipe?
I need to replace my current engine asap.
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Old 05-24-2010 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Razathorn
Well, after your last post, and referring to the one above, and ron's comments, and the fact that a werks team driver is running a jp4, I had accept the possibility that I still might be missing something and decided to give it another go. Your last post indicated that I should lean the top and fatten the bottom potentially, and this one you suggested it might be the other way 'round. The important part being needle imbalance, something I've warned others about myself, and was honestly sure I had certainly ruled it out.

Welp, you guys were right. Re-tuned, top end ended up being 3/4 turn richer, bottom was about 3/4 - a whole turn leaner, and the idle stop got dropped a lot. The unavoidable high idle is gone, the temps are lower, and the motor feels noticeably better, especially on the low end and transition to full throttle -- I don't have to babysit the throttle to keep it from loading up as much. The best part is that I can knock out both the high and low speed needle setting pretty darn close just on the box by ear -- and neither are more than an hour off after hitting the ground.
Way to go. Another way to do it is leave the top alone lower the idle screw and the lean out the low one. I changed back to my 2035 today just to do some testing thats all i had to do......
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Originally Posted by Razathorn
Welp, you guys were right. Re-tuned, top end ended up being 3/4 turn richer, bottom was about 3/4 - a whole turn leaner, and the idle stop got dropped a lot. The unavoidable high idle is gone, the temps are lower, and the motor feels noticeably better, especially on the low end and transition to full throttle -- I don't have to babysit the throttle to keep it from loading up as much. The best part is that I can knock out both the high and low speed needle setting pretty darn close just on the box by ear -- and neither are more than an hour off after hitting the ground.
Awesome! Doesn't it feel great to solve a problem?
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Old 05-24-2010 | 08:10 PM
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imagine the B7 but with more bottom and not quite as much top. As far as how it will run with that pipe, I have no clue but maybe someone else has tried it.
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Old 05-24-2010 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by hdcruzer
Way to go. Another way to do it is leave the top alone lower the idle screw and the lean out the low one. I changed back to my 2035 today just to do some testing thats all i had to do......
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Awesome! Doesn't it feel great to solve a problem?
Well, the thing is that it really actually worked well with the needles out of balance, outside of the part throttle range was pretty fat if you hit it after not keeping it clean. The thing that gets me is this is about where the needles were at when I first started running the motor and the first few tunes I did. I ended up really leaning out the top end over the last few weeks because it seemed to work. Little did I know it was the cause of my low end fun.

Stupid b5 just runs too well -- it runs well if it's all out of whack and just feeds you hints. LOL.
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Old 05-24-2010 | 08:34 PM
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I feel you. I kept tuning mine lean on top and it would run great ... for 4 minutes before it started high idling, but at no point did I lack for power. I figured it out around gallon 2 and other than an air filter problem at one race have had great success with my B5.

I bought my B5 last year before I knew the local pro had switched. At the time we were the only two running them locally but now it is the 2nd most popular engine out here. I know that the others bought because of Kingsbury, but the fact a lower-main sportsman could run them without trouble didn't hurt!
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Old 05-24-2010 | 08:53 PM
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Without a doubt, I think this is probably the most active thread on RCtech for any one model of engine. It's all due to the phenomenal customer service from Ron, and I think we all owe him a big thank you.

I went to a practice session at the new Fear Farm track in AZ on saturday. I had to work at 630 so I did not get to run the 8th scale track, as they were making finishing touches for the 1st race later that night... their 8th scale track is really something! But i ran the 10th scale track to get my chassis dialed in for the AMS race. It's actually not a bad 8th scale track... short but not cramped. I went through 3 tanks getting my camber, brakes and ride height dialed in, as I'd put all new arms, camber links, etc.etc. on the buggy. I also went back to the 17T clutch bell, as I may be seitching back to the old 2013 pipe that i have from the 2050 that runs so darn good... Ambient temp was about 90. Once i found the sweet spot and got my low end needle just how i like it (no high-low idle thing here) I got on the track and ran 3 tanks back to back. When I heard a bog, I'd pull off (no pit guy or pit lane here) and put-put over to the table, put it on the starter box, fill up and walk it back to the track, set her down on the beginning of the straight and walk up the ramp to the driver's stand. I'd run laps till it was time to do it again... after the 3rd tank was down to about a 1/4 to 3/8 of an inch left, I put-putted over to the table and took a temp... 191 degrees. I set it on the starter box, walked over to my buddy's table and said, 'wow check out how great my motor is running'.... lit a cigarette, and we started talking. After i put out the cig, i pulled the trigger... 'BRRRRAPPPP!' Still running, no load up. Plenty of power to do it all and nobody was killing me on the straight. I need to twist the screwdriver a bit more, to get the temps up a bit, but let me tell you this: 16T bell and colder ambient temps I was temping about 225. So with a 2013 I should really be able to get a few more hours out of my HSN. If you run B5/2013 you might wanna try going up one tooth on the clutchbell... it's got enough torque to pull it off, and also of note, my EPA on the throttle is set about 3/4 of the way to wide open... it will save you a pitstop or 2 in your mains.

If you're going to the AMS, I wanna get all the B5 drivers together for a picture to send to Ron. I was thinking perhaps Thursday after controlled practice???? What do you guys think? I'll be with the Team Terribles trailer. We'll also be signing up new members...and we sell WERKS engines (hopefully plugs and fuel are next). So if you're a B5'er and you want to take a group photo with our bugs and trugs at the AMS race let me know by PM.

Thanks Ron.... Your engine has given me one helluva season here over the winter, and as I head into summer it just doesn't wanna quit.
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Old 05-24-2010 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Werks
Congrats on the win too!!!
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Old 05-24-2010 | 10:14 PM
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I think that you guys hit the nail on the head! The funny thing about the B5 is that the motor just produces so much power that you can be completely out of whack on the needle settings and not even notice it lol! Most engines would be bogging down or death reving and for the most part the B5 just keeps on trucking! Frankly I'm not sure if that is a blessing or a curse in disguise ;-) by the way in case I forgot to mention.....4 more days east coast time!!!!
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