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Sure looks like a P35 to me. In what ways was yours different? IIRC there were two versions of the P35, one with an extra hump between the cockpit and the front fenders, and one with just a smooth curve. The one with the hump came out later to help clear some of the higher front ends and let people mount it lower.
You coming to the nats at Norcal in August?
-James
Tech Apprentice
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 83
From: Helsinki, Finland
Is this scenario familiar to you?
Our Xray XII Link version has a strong tendency to lift the inside rear tyre in tight corners.
-driving mod on carpet
-carpet is not bumpy
-traction is medium to high
-tyres front 2xpink 39-40mm rear pink 41-42mm.
-tracktion compound front inside 25% 10 minutes rear
Which way should I start looking for to fix this
-harder compound tyre in front? takes away steering
-shorter additive time?
-center spring+oil, side shock oil and side springs are standard. Should it be harder?
-something else
Our Xray XII Link version has a strong tendency to lift the inside rear tyre in tight corners.
-driving mod on carpet
-carpet is not bumpy
-traction is medium to high
-tyres front 2xpink 39-40mm rear pink 41-42mm.
-tracktion compound front inside 25% 10 minutes rear
Which way should I start looking for to fix this
-harder compound tyre in front? takes away steering
-shorter additive time?
-center spring+oil, side shock oil and side springs are standard. Should it be harder?
-something else
Tech Initiate
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 45
From: Antwerp, Belgium (Europe)
Hey Brian,
Sure looks like a P35 to me. In what ways was yours different? IIRC there were two versions of the P35, one with an extra hump between the cockpit and the front fenders, and one with just a smooth curve. The one with the hump came out later to help clear some of the higher front ends and let people mount it lower.
You coming to the nats at Norcal in August?
-James
Sure looks like a P35 to me. In what ways was yours different? IIRC there were two versions of the P35, one with an extra hump between the cockpit and the front fenders, and one with just a smooth curve. The one with the hump came out later to help clear some of the higher front ends and let people mount it lower.
You coming to the nats at Norcal in August?
-James
It is the Protoform Nissan P35 ( 1603R ) body , I just bought a BNIB one
in the Netherlands to have this one as spare body and to paint the other myself as a training body.
They are hard to find but search and you might find one on the web .
Erik
Tech Adept
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 238
Hey Brian,
Sure looks like a P35 to me. In what ways was yours different? IIRC there were two versions of the P35, one with an extra hump between the cockpit and the front fenders, and one with just a smooth curve. The one with the hump came out later to help clear some of the higher front ends and let people mount it lower.
You coming to the nats at Norcal in August?
-James
Sure looks like a P35 to me. In what ways was yours different? IIRC there were two versions of the P35, one with an extra hump between the cockpit and the front fenders, and one with just a smooth curve. The one with the hump came out later to help clear some of the higher front ends and let people mount it lower.
You coming to the nats at Norcal in August?
-James
To me it does look a mercedes and it might not have been made by Protoform at all but by a company called Andy's. I don't have any bodies to compare with but the sides of the rear wing look a bit wrong for the Protoform, I seem to remember the vertical sides towards the rear of the PF be smooth with no ridge on the side of the body near the rear wheels.
-------Mitch

Tech Fanatic
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 814
From: SF Bay Area
Is this scenario familiar to you?
Our Xray XII Link version has a strong tendency to lift the inside rear tyre in tight corners.
-driving mod on carpet
-carpet is not bumpy
-traction is medium to high
-tyres front 2xpink 39-40mm rear pink 41-42mm.
-tracktion compound front inside 25% 10 minutes rear
Which way should I start looking for to fix this
-harder compound tyre in front? takes away steering
-shorter additive time?
-center spring+oil, side shock oil and side springs are standard. Should it be harder?
-something else
Our Xray XII Link version has a strong tendency to lift the inside rear tyre in tight corners.
-driving mod on carpet
-carpet is not bumpy
-traction is medium to high
-tyres front 2xpink 39-40mm rear pink 41-42mm.
-tracktion compound front inside 25% 10 minutes rear
Which way should I start looking for to fix this
-harder compound tyre in front? takes away steering
-shorter additive time?
-center spring+oil, side shock oil and side springs are standard. Should it be harder?
-something else
Tech Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 786
From: Poland, Warsaw
Hi!
Try read this blog:
http://markpayneblog.blogspot.com/se...a%2012th%20Car
Btw, I do in 1st step balance r/l on hudy pin tool and then only correct
tweak by screws (t-bar 12L4 or screws for springs preload in my 12R5.1 ae).

Don't worry it take some time
Good luck!
M.
Try read this blog:
http://markpayneblog.blogspot.com/se...a%2012th%20Car
Btw, I do in 1st step balance r/l on hudy pin tool and then only correct
tweak by screws (t-bar 12L4 or screws for springs preload in my 12R5.1 ae).

Don't worry it take some time

Good luck!
M.
Tech Fanatic
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 814
From: SF Bay Area
Does anyone have any advice for tweaking and balancing a chassis?
I read most racers are balancing their chassis' with lead and electronic placement, rather than using the tweak adjustment screws.
I've almost got my chassis balanced using a set of Hudy Balancing Pins, but it's not perfect. Would it be a good idea to finish "balancing and tweaking" the chassis using the tweak adjustment screws?
I'm a former oval racer, so I'm trying to learn the 1/12th on-road procedures for proper chassis preparation. Balancing the chassis from left to right is all new to me.
Thanks for the help,
Josh
I read most racers are balancing their chassis' with lead and electronic placement, rather than using the tweak adjustment screws.
I've almost got my chassis balanced using a set of Hudy Balancing Pins, but it's not perfect. Would it be a good idea to finish "balancing and tweaking" the chassis using the tweak adjustment screws?
I'm a former oval racer, so I'm trying to learn the 1/12th on-road procedures for proper chassis preparation. Balancing the chassis from left to right is all new to me.
Thanks for the help,
Josh
Does anyone have any advice for tweaking and balancing a chassis?
I read most racers are balancing their chassis' with lead and electronic placement, rather than using the tweak adjustment screws.
I've almost got my chassis balanced using a set of Hudy Balancing Pins, but it's not perfect. Would it be a good idea to finish "balancing and tweaking" the chassis using the tweak adjustment screws?
I'm a former oval racer, so I'm trying to learn the 1/12th on-road procedures for proper chassis preparation. Balancing the chassis from left to right is all new to me.
Thanks for the help,
Josh
I read most racers are balancing their chassis' with lead and electronic placement, rather than using the tweak adjustment screws.
I've almost got my chassis balanced using a set of Hudy Balancing Pins, but it's not perfect. Would it be a good idea to finish "balancing and tweaking" the chassis using the tweak adjustment screws?
I'm a former oval racer, so I'm trying to learn the 1/12th on-road procedures for proper chassis preparation. Balancing the chassis from left to right is all new to me.
Thanks for the help,
Josh
Tech Master
iTrader: (3)
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,368
From: Saskatoon, SK, Canada
Is this scenario familiar to you?
Our Xray XII Link version has a strong tendency to lift the inside rear tyre in tight corners.
-driving mod on carpet
-carpet is not bumpy
-traction is medium to high
-tyres front 2xpink 39-40mm rear pink 41-42mm.
-tracktion compound front inside 25% 10 minutes rear
Which way should I start looking for to fix this
-harder compound tyre in front? takes away steering
-shorter additive time?
-center spring+oil, side shock oil and side springs are standard. Should it be harder?
-something else
Our Xray XII Link version has a strong tendency to lift the inside rear tyre in tight corners.
-driving mod on carpet
-carpet is not bumpy
-traction is medium to high
-tyres front 2xpink 39-40mm rear pink 41-42mm.
-tracktion compound front inside 25% 10 minutes rear
Which way should I start looking for to fix this
-harder compound tyre in front? takes away steering
-shorter additive time?
-center spring+oil, side shock oil and side springs are standard. Should it be harder?
-something else
Tech Initiate
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 45
From: Antwerp, Belgium (Europe)
To me it does look a mercedes and it might not have been made by Protoform at all but by a company called Andy's. I don't have any bodies to compare with but the sides of the rear wing look a bit wrong for the Protoform, I seem to remember the vertical sides towards the rear of the PF be smooth with no ridge on the side of the body near the rear wheels.
-------Mitch

-------Mitch







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