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Old 03-17-2010 | 11:43 PM
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hey guys looking at buying a triton eq2 i have found some bad reports on them on other forums.

does anyone have one or can anyone tell me weather of not to buy one. if you think it's crap can you suggest something else that has 110-240v input and 12v dc input that can charge and balance 4-5 cell lipo at more than 1c any input would be great.
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Old 03-18-2010 | 12:00 AM
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What is your budget ?

Is there a reason why you need AC power rather than running a seperate power supply ?

What size (mah) batteries do you need to charge ?

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Old 03-18-2010 | 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by crusey_aus
What is your budget ?

Is there a reason why you need AC power rather than running a seperate power supply ?

What size (mah) batteries do you need to charge ?

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hey there only reason i want ac power is cause it's easier if you take it some where to only need one item not 2 as to mah 5000 atm but i am guessing in a 6-12 months the average capacity will be more like 6000-6500 budget well don't know really $250 i guess.

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That triton is 100w max on AC

It would charge a (6500mah 5s) battery at less than 1c or only 5.4 amps

Sounds like you need one capable of around 150 watts

I dont know of many that are AC/DC in that size (most are only 50w or so)


My suggestion would be to grab one that needs a supply like this :

http://epbuddy.com/index.php?main_pa...&products_id=1

And grab one of these :

http://epbuddy.com/index.php?main_pa...products_id=13

And you'll also need an adapter board to suit your type of balance connector (if you dont use jst-xh)

http://epbuddy.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=2


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Old 03-18-2010 | 02:34 AM
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do you have one of these? hobbycity sell them they also sell GT-A6-10 which is 200w and is only $50 not $110 is the icharger still a better idea?

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That triton is 100w max on AC

It would charge a (6500mah 5s) battery at less than 1c or only 5.4 amps

Sounds like you need one capable of around 150 watts

I dont know of many that are AC/DC in that size (most are only 50w or so)


My suggestion would be to grab one that needs a supply like this :

http://epbuddy.com/index.php?main_pa...&products_id=1

And grab one of these :

http://epbuddy.com/index.php?main_pa...products_id=13

And you'll also need an adapter board to suit your type of balance connector (if you dont use jst-xh)

http://epbuddy.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=2


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Old 03-18-2010 | 02:42 AM
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I've had an icharger 106b+ for a few months and I love it, has great functionality

When I was looking around I found this thread where the actual Engineer who designed and built it posted, have a read it contains some nice technical info

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=839657

I purchased mine from HC, only reason I posted the epbuddy links was they have good deals going at the moment on postage etc...

I use it together with this power supply which is good enough for 150w or so

http://hobbycity.com/hobbycity/store...100~240V_12.5A

I charge my smaller 2s/3s lipos in pairs using their adapter board which works well


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Old 03-18-2010 | 05:01 AM
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There is another alternative AC/DC charger - Dynamite Passport Ultra - its also a 100watt, full featured charger, but unlike the Triton 2EQ, its only $130. It will charge at a max rate of 8amps. Has had good feedback here.

http://www.dynamiterc.com/Products/D...ProdID=DYN4064

review here -

http://www.horizonhobby.com/Articles...ArticleID=2083

I have a GT Power A-6-10 and its been a solid charger so far, just need a power supply. Depending on where you live, it may or may not be a good deal to buy power supply from HC due to the weight and shipping cost. AMain has a reasonable power supply -

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...-138V-10A-130W


GT Power has a AC/DC charger, but I suspect its only 50watt (power not mentioned in review) - think its a version of the GT Power A-6 wich is 50watts -

http://www.myrcbox.com/?p=2267
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Old 03-18-2010 | 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by gnatsum69
hey guys looking at buying a triton eq2 i have found some bad reports on them on other forums.

does anyone have one or can anyone tell me weather of not to buy one. if you think it's crap can you suggest something else that has 110-240v input and 12v dc input that can charge and balance 4-5 cell lipo at more than 1c any input would be great.
I went back and re-read your post and if you're serious about more than 1C charging 5S and 6S lipos that are 6000-6500mah, you will not find an AC/DC charger that will do that. A 1C charge on a 6S 6000 lipo needs a little more than 150watts, a 2S would take over 300watts and so on. I think the highest I've ever seen for an AC/DC charger is 120watts.

The only chargers you'll find with this kind of power are DC powered. The iCharger 206B and 208B have enough output power and high enough max charge rates to charge at these conditions. You would need a power supply with 10-20% more power than the charger (inefficiency) to enable charger to run at max conditions.
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I went back and re-read your post and if you're serious about more than 1C charging 5S and 6S lipos that are 6000-6500mah, you will not find an AC/DC charger that will do that. A 1C charge on a 6S 6000 lipo needs a little more than 150watts, a 2S would take over 300watts and so on. I think the highest I've ever seen for an AC/DC charger is 120watts.

The only chargers you'll find with this kind of power are DC powered. The iCharger 206B and 208B have enough output power and high enough max charge rates to charge at these conditions. You would need a power supply with 10-20% more power than the charger (inefficiency) to enable charger to run at max conditions.
hey there people say a draw back with the triton eq2 is the charge rate is set a 1c. if you have a 5000mah and you set it to 6500mah i believe that is telling the eq2 that the capicity is 6500mah but it would still peak and balance the cells to 4.2v wouldn't it? i hope you know what i mean.

michael

P.s running a lst2 brushless with mamba 2200 motor how hot is the motor allowed to get and is it okay for a lipo to be warm after a full run? the reason i ask is i had turnigy 30-40c 5000mah lipo it was too much start power i bought 20-30 5000mah turnigy hoping it would reduce taking off power. is a 20c battery not enough?
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Triton 2 EQ has a max charge rate of 8amps, so setting the capacity to 6500mah and getting a resulting 1C charger rate of 6.5amps should not be a prob.

Reading the manual, it does seem charger allows only a 1C charge rate up to its 8amps max charge rate. If what your're asking is if you have a 9000mah lipo and set it up that way will the charger charge it to capacity even though teh charge rate is only 8amps and not the 1C charge rate of 9amps. That answer is yes, it will charge the lipo to 4.2v/cell regardless.

If your lipo is getting 'warm', thats a sign that it is producing more amps than it is comfortable with. How warm is warm? Generally lipos are chosen so they rarely get above ambient excpet when space and weight dictate the absolute minimum batt (planes and 1/8 buggy). So if 20C is getting warm and warm is less than 110f or so, you're prob ok. A 30C would not get as warm or maybe not warm at all.

Rather than switch to lower C rated lipos to control start power and then have them and the motor run hot, get a Castel link and set the start power to low and then start adjusting "Punch" control til you get it like you want. This would be a lot better way to do it.
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Old 03-19-2010 | 02:34 PM
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If you plan to use the Triton in AC mode you wont get full 1c charge rate on a 5s 6500 mah pack

It is limited to 100w

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Old 03-19-2010 | 02:55 PM
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I was thinking 2S, if you're talking 5S or 6S 6500mah, then the Triton2 EQ will limit charge current to stay under its 100watt AC power limit. A 6S at 22.2v would be limited to 4.5amps. At 25.2v, charge current would be a little less than 4amps. Even on DC, Triton would limit charge current for a 6S.

The charger would charge it, it would just take longer. 2S would not be limited.

If you're only considering AC/DC, Dynamite Passport Ultra at 120watts would be a faster charger. Prob should be looking at a 350watt DC powered iCharger though.
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