Adam you are right he did want to try it out.
But I also do have my facts right (MATE) as I have been talking to Robbie personaly seen he is racing for IMCC now.

I will put my 2-cents in on this one having run "Stock" pan car for many years before taking an extended vacation. A few years ago I decided to get back into RC and looked around. I went and paid a little more up front for my Tekin RS esc and Tekin Reddline 17.5 after researching what was out. I run 17.5 & 13.5 dirt oval, and its very competative. With the new esc, I got a lipo cutoff, software upgrades, small size, and a Team that supports and races its own products. I had always previously owned Tekins exclusively and liked what I saw with the new ones.

Two and half years later, and all the other esc's that have come out since and I am still running the same Tekin Redline 17.5 and Tekin RS esc today in some of the most competitive racing ever, and they are still as competative as ever. The software improvements have pushed the speeds up, and the motor temps down. The upgrades have also made the throttle smoother, and easier to drive fast. Yes there is a learning curve with the software and setup, but that's part of racing and goes with the teritory. I have had to re-learn a lot of stuff, and a few new tricks with each new software version. Need help, ask you will get lots of support from any of us here. The Team Tekin site also has posted set-ups to help get you going as well.

Put a Tekin motor and esc in it and be done with it the first time around. Sure beats the old days of cutting brushes, comm's, and buying new batteries every 2-3 weeks and then zapping the crap out of them, or in today's world, buying the latest off brand esc only to see a new software upgrade come out from Tekin and be available and free to the public and get your doors blown off again. I can now spend more time on car set-up and less time worring about how to find more speed. Buy it once and be done with it.

Ah keefy are you sure you got the right speedi

I'm not sure there were any tekins in 10.5 at the summer nats
but you guys will see the speed soon

Ah ok, a little part of me died when a tekin 17.5 was pulling away from me tonight. Maybe I'll invest my time into 1/12th.

thought you were getting a new speedi

I thought lifetime warranties went out when they released the spheres? Did they bring that back?

Actually thats the biggest summernats ive seen in ages, which is probably because they didnt have weird rules. Overcast weather probably didnt help much either

As with regards to the current question i've run the tekins since they had the original R1 (or tried to run the R1 :P).
Terkin are what i like to refer to as a boutique company, and they are very progressive with regards to development towards race performance and are not afraid to release software updates.
Sometimes this can be bad with regards to buggy/quirky software or risks in changing the characteristics of esc to such a point that you can blow motors. But if you follow the threads or ask around you will be fine. There are enuffs Tekins around these days that there is probably at least one person at your track who can help you out with questions.

At the moment the adjustability is so vast that things are a little confusing and hit and miss, so you will probably need advice getting it going initially.

But ultimately, we dont race to come last. Technology is always changing so its not possible to say which is going to be the best esc for the future, but in my opinion the RS is the best option currently available coupled with an existing record for a willingness to develop and provide updated software to improve performance (although i dont know how much more they can squeeze out of the thing!).

Mike

RE your issue with brakes with Tekin.

If you have the V203 software in your ESC you should not have a brakes problem. Most of the guys here have to turn their brakes down on this version

Correct!

Never had any breaking issuses

But I have only tried the last 3 software
versions

Wow, i go away for the weekend and come back to read this

Craig,

When the SPX was released it was definitely superior to the software tekin had out at that time, so what did they do? They released newer software so we could keep up, now they released the 203 which is awesome for stock. At the moment LRP users are having a cry, how ever once the new SXX SPX comes out i think it will be on a level playing field again, only problem is they will need to buy a whole new speed controller where as we get the upgrades. Really tekin have got it right with software released for free, why would you want to buy a speed controller that doesn't come with FREE upgrades to make it superior to the competition?

Those of you that had the issue of weak brakes with the older software this issue has been addressed with the new 203 software, summernats a lot of drivers using the 203 software had to turn it down, with 100% brakes it was way to much.

Dadaman,

First off, Jazza was correct. Robbie was one of the top stock drivers in NSW,his reasons for moving up were the ones Jazza posted.So stop thinking you know everything as you don't!!!!

There was another reason why he leaped super stock and went to Mod, myself and a few others have been thinking about doing this same thing. Super Stock is a close/competitive class to race in, how ever the people racing in that class make it one we don't want to race in as YOU ALL BITCH TO MUCH!!!! about everything and anything. Its a shame because a select few in the class are really nice guys and are great to race against. (hey someone had to say it)...

Yes i can move up to super stock but this would be my main reason for staying in stock, the racing is close and the guys racing it are a great bunch of racers. When im ready to get my ass handed to me then ill move up to Mod


Back to the point.....

Spec racing now has become dependent on what speedy you now using, its no longer the motor. As Feral was saying we could change the rules one more time to suit how ever we have been down this road before and would be a waste of time and especially money. Its simple racing is racing, if you want to be competitive you will need to buy one of the top current esc's, how ever it also comes to the driver. You could have the best gear out there as a lot of racers do, its matter of being consistent and fast which is something new racers don't get. Yeah you might be able to pull off 1 quick lap out of say 19 but its a matter of being able to pull off that quick lap 19 times over, this would probably have to be my main point.

Alex . . . .

Yes it did. I am on the team drivers email loop and it was discussed there.

Oh so your a team driver for Rod now???

You missed my point entirely... in fact I can't even be certain you read my entire post and didn't just skip to the bit you could disagree with.

And I would very much appreciate you not attributing the definition of Stock as being something I personally created... it came into existence without me having anything to do with it... I was simply recounting, to the best of my knowledge, how the term came to be and how it came to reference a particular class of racing... Your opinion of it may be that it is wrong to call it that, but it doesn't change the FACTS of how the class got its name... it also doesn't mean that I support the name...

A very experienced RC racer (who also raced drag cars at a quite high level) once told me never to try and compare RC racing to other forms of motor sport... I just doesn't work... and for the past 15 or so years I've had to agree with him... The hobby of RC racing is a commercial enterprise of a totally different nature to any form of "real" racing...


In RC world there is no such thing as stock, as in a dictionary definition... the best people can do is look at whats available on the market, what people seem to buy and then create classes around that but with some way of TRYING to keep it fairly equal... hence using the motor as the limiting factor... that's why the 3 main Touring car classes in Australia have been 540, Stock and Modified:... Stock as it was originally defined ceased to exist when we stopped using brushed motors...

Which proves in my mind that Tekin is one of the few RC companies putting the Racers before profits

The upgradeability is a huge plus for tekin, team wave, and ko. In the case of the tekin I imagine it wont be long until they want to upgrade the RS/RS Pro's hardware to keep up with their software advances - I understand the RS now overheats when running 10.5 with the 203 software, even though it's rated to 8.5t motors.

As for LRP users "having a cry", I think the guys that are a bit disillusioned by the speedo war are the ones using non-timing shift speedos like the guy that started this thread because the difference between them and the tekin is pretty big.

FYI my 2c would be to buy a tekin too, I'm gonna try one out soon