2s1p vs 2s2p and parallel balancing in general
#1
First things first -- I'm still a little confused on what 2s2p and 2s1p look like. I was good to go on 2s2p, but then 2s1p kinda threw me for a loop. 2s2p is a total of 4 cells in two groups where the two cells in each group are in parallel, and then the two groups are wired in series -- is this correct? If so, is 2s1p a total of 4 cells in two groups where the two cells in each group are connected in series, and then the two groups are in parallel?
Am I getting this right?
So what is the advantage to one over the other? It seems that if each cell was M mah and V voltage, you'd have 2M mah capacity and 2V voltage either way... so what am I missing?
It would seem that a major disadvantage of wiring lipos cells in parallel is the loss of the ability to balance the individual cells in a parallel group. Why would you go with 2s2p ever?
I have a feeling I'm missing something.
Am I getting this right?
So what is the advantage to one over the other? It seems that if each cell was M mah and V voltage, you'd have 2M mah capacity and 2V voltage either way... so what am I missing?
It would seem that a major disadvantage of wiring lipos cells in parallel is the loss of the ability to balance the individual cells in a parallel group. Why would you go with 2s2p ever?
I have a feeling I'm missing something.
#2
First things first -- I'm still a little confused on what 2s2p and 2s1p look like. I was good to go on 2s2p, but then 2s1p kinda threw me for a loop. 2s2p is a total of 4 cells in two groups where the two cells in each group are in parallel, and then the two groups are wired in series -- is this correct? If so, is 2s1p a total of 4 cells in two groups where the two cells in each group are connected in series, and then the two groups are in parallel?
Am I getting this right?
So what is the advantage to one over the other? It seems that if each cell was M mah and V voltage, you'd have 2M mah capacity and 2V voltage either way... so what am I missing?
It would seem that a major disadvantage of wiring lipos cells in parallel is the loss of the ability to balance the individual cells in a parallel group. Why would you go with 2s2p ever?
I have a feeling I'm missing something.
Am I getting this right?
So what is the advantage to one over the other? It seems that if each cell was M mah and V voltage, you'd have 2M mah capacity and 2V voltage either way... so what am I missing?
It would seem that a major disadvantage of wiring lipos cells in parallel is the loss of the ability to balance the individual cells in a parallel group. Why would you go with 2s2p ever?
I have a feeling I'm missing something.
#3
The 2S2P info is correct, but for let say a 2S1P 5000mAh pack, you'll have 2 5000mAh cells in series and not 4. For example, in my 8th scale truggy I run 2 3300-3700mAh 4S1P packs wired in series to give me 8S1P, but I can have the packs wired in parellel and have it 4S2P which will increase the capacity.
#4
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The reason you sometimes see higher than 1 parallel is just packaging. If you don't have cells just the right size to fill a battery compartment, but have cells that are right at half the desired size, bingo just double them up in parallel.
No worry about balancing, the cells in parallel will continuously balance with each other. All the time whether being used or not (within a single assembled pack anyway). Normal balancing still recommended for the series portion.
The only concern is when assembling the pack, should have all the cells at the same voltage. Any difference, and the balancing will happen very quickly, could cause some high currents.
No worry about balancing, the cells in parallel will continuously balance with each other. All the time whether being used or not (within a single assembled pack anyway). Normal balancing still recommended for the series portion.
The only concern is when assembling the pack, should have all the cells at the same voltage. Any difference, and the balancing will happen very quickly, could cause some high currents.
Last edited by Dave H; 10-01-2009 at 02:17 AM.
#6
The reason you sometimes see higher than 1 parallel is just packaging. If you don't have cells just the right size to fill a battery compartment, but have cells that are right at half the desired size, bingo just double them up in parallel.
No worry about balancing, the cells in parallel will continuously balance with each other. All the time whether being used or not (within a single assembled pack anyway). Normal balancing still recommended for the series portion.
The only concern is when assembling the pack, should have all the cells at the same voltage. Any difference, and the balancing will happen very quickly, could cause some high currents.
No worry about balancing, the cells in parallel will continuously balance with each other. All the time whether being used or not (within a single assembled pack anyway). Normal balancing still recommended for the series portion.
The only concern is when assembling the pack, should have all the cells at the same voltage. Any difference, and the balancing will happen very quickly, could cause some high currents.
See what I'm saying?
Seems to me that it would always be preferable to have better single cells in series than to have cells in parallel at all.
#7
Dave is also right cells in parallel will balance each other. This isnīt just for Lipos but for batteries in general. But this also is a reason why you shouldnīt parallel batteries with different or unknown charging state. If there is a big difference there will be high current flow between these what could mean even destroying them if the difference is big enough.
#8
See it that way, if you have a Lipo what is just rated as 2S any informed guy will know thatīs a 7.4V Lipo. But this informed guy also knows there are Lipo packs using just one or maybe more cells in parallel but as there is just 2S spec he wonīt know anything more on this.
If there is the 2S1P this then means there are just 2 cells in series connected but no additional cells in parallel. Of course you also could say 2S0P with 0P meaning no additional cells, but this looks a little weird in compare to 2S1P from my view.



