My opinion on Losi vs Mugen
03-29-2009, 09:33 AM
#16
Thanks. Thats out latest prototype racecar the R15. More pics here:
http://www.mulsannescorner.com/newsmarch09.html
http://www.mulsannescorner.com/newsmarch09.html
Last edited by ezveedub; 03-29-2009 at 09:44 AM.
03-29-2009, 10:42 AM
#17
driving styles do come in to picking and sticking with a new car if it doesnt suit you and you cant tune it to work for you change chassis, but remember a lot of people dont drive like you !!!, what makes me curious though is that pro drivers in the span of their careers may drive for several car manufacturers and yet they can drive them all without altering the way they go about their business on track!! gotta wonder about this car drives better than that car scenario really are we really talking about our own ability to tune a car properly or is it the car that makes the difference??? food for thought. 
03-29-2009, 12:10 PM
#18
driving styles do come in to picking and sticking with a new car if it doesnt suit you and you cant tune it to work for you change chassis, but remember a lot of people dont drive like you !!!, what makes me curious though is that pro drivers in the span of their careers may drive for several car manufacturers and yet they can drive them all without altering the way they go about their business on track!! gotta wonder about this car drives better than that car scenario really are we really talking about our own ability to tune a car properly or is it the car that makes the difference??? food for thought.
the Eights longer chassis and forward biased weight distribution makes the car handle in a manner that no tunning can compensate imo.
As R1harper said different cars feel different.
Last edited by gameholic2; 03-29-2009 at 12:22 PM.
03-29-2009, 12:24 PM
#19
Tech Master
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I wasnt happy with my mbx6. It had quite a few durability issues. I also had a terrible experience with Mugen customer support.
My 2.0 has 8-10 gallons through it with only one failure. I blew a rear diff because I didnt shim it right. I was making noise for almost 2 gallons before it finally failed. Im still on the original arms, rod ends, etc..
I have a friend who can run an MBX6 for free but chose to buy my 2.0 and has been very happy with it.
Most importantly I am way faster with the 2.0. my buddy has been too.
My 2.0 has 8-10 gallons through it with only one failure. I blew a rear diff because I didnt shim it right. I was making noise for almost 2 gallons before it finally failed. Im still on the original arms, rod ends, etc..
I have a friend who can run an MBX6 for free but chose to buy my 2.0 and has been very happy with it.
Most importantly I am way faster with the 2.0. my buddy has been too.
03-29-2009, 01:25 PM
#20
The mp9 is definetely worth a price premium over a losi. Between replacing sloppy and worn parts on the losi, and spending money chasing settups for different tracks, even at 750$ for the kyosho you will still likely save money through the course of a season. And you'll start with a buggy that will always have consistent braking, even if your pitman gets fuel on them, lol. Far better deals out there than 750$ though if you look, I paid 570$ nib shipped for mine, and couldn't be happier to get away from losi.
03-29-2009, 03:00 PM
#21
Tech Initiate
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driving styles do come in to picking and sticking with a new car if it doesnt suit you and you cant tune it to work for you change chassis, but remember a lot of people dont drive like you !!!, what makes me curious though is that pro drivers in the span of their careers may drive for several car manufacturers and yet they can drive them all without altering the way they go about their business on track!! gotta wonder about this car drives better than that car scenario really are we really talking about our own ability to tune a car properly or is it the car that makes the difference??? food for thought.
+1
Threads like these are soooo pointless its not even funny. Take car 1 and set it up poorly and compare it to car 2 that is set up great, then take car 2 and set it up poorly and compare it to car 3, now poorly set up car 3 and compare it to a properly set up car 1.
Bottom line is, if you are a proffesional that knows how to set up a vehicle at the top level and drive at the top level, I would love to hear your opinion and comparison otherwise its a waste of time.
03-29-2009, 03:25 PM
#22
The mp9 is definetely worth a price premium over a losi. Between replacing sloppy and worn parts on the losi, and spending money chasing settups for different tracks, even at 750$ for the kyosho you will still likely save money through the course of a season. And you'll start with a buggy that will always have consistent braking, even if your pitman gets fuel on them, lol. Far better deals out there than 750$ though if you look, I paid 570$ nib shipped for mine, and couldn't be happier to get away from losi.
03-29-2009, 05:09 PM
#23
The brakes are just one of the many issues the cars have though......anyone that has time on the cars know them all too well.I know the Losi's are appealing because they are dirt cheap and many like to swing from the Drake's nether regions, but their quality reflects the price. I wouldn't run a losi if they gave me a full ride......... I'd much sooner spend my money on a kyosho or mugen than drive a losi for free.....
Not to bash Losi uneccessarily, I ran their cars back in the day and loved them. Coming back to Losi after a career of real racing though, has really dissappointed me with their drop in quality over the years. Obviously, when Gil left, he was more than a little dissappointed in the direction the company was headed as well..... You can run em if you want to, but there are CERTAINLY better choices available.
03-29-2009, 05:24 PM
#24
I have a 2.0 and an mbx6.
My thoughts are pretty much the same as the thread starter..
I run the mbx6 mainly because our local track resembles the surface of the moon. very losi unfriendly.
My thoughts are pretty much the same as the thread starter..
I run the mbx6 mainly because our local track resembles the surface of the moon. very losi unfriendly.
03-29-2009, 05:40 PM
#25
+1
Threads like these are soooo pointless its not even funny. Take car 1 and set it up poorly and compare it to car 2 that is set up great, then take car 2 and set it up poorly and compare it to car 3, now poorly set up car 3 and compare it to a properly set up car 1.
Bottom line is, if you are a proffesional that knows how to set up a vehicle at the top level and drive at the top level, I would love to hear your opinion and comparison otherwise its a waste of time.
Threads like these are soooo pointless its not even funny. Take car 1 and set it up poorly and compare it to car 2 that is set up great, then take car 2 and set it up poorly and compare it to car 3, now poorly set up car 3 and compare it to a properly set up car 1.
Bottom line is, if you are a proffesional that knows how to set up a vehicle at the top level and drive at the top level, I would love to hear your opinion and comparison otherwise its a waste of time.
Posts like yours are even more pointless...
The idea behind my thread was to give an idea of what the average guy can expect from the 2 cars I'm no pro but neither are you and most of the guys on this forum so my opinion is probably more representative of what you and the other average racers will experience with both these cars.
Hope you understand...
Your credibility just died with this statement.
Last edited by gameholic2; 03-29-2009 at 05:54 PM.
03-29-2009, 05:49 PM
#27
I'm in the middle of purchasing either a Losi Eight or a Mugen MBX6...still undecided.
03-29-2009, 05:56 PM
#28
Tech Initiate
I disagree I think the Losi is horrible the time I owned it all I did was break and have to fight to get the car straight with the mugen its dialed which allows you to drive harder without crashing which makes you faster.Also I dont crash alot usually max once in a round so that means the car would fall apart and would break on impact from jumps.But theres alot of losi fans out there so it depends on who you are and how you drive.
03-29-2009, 06:07 PM
#29
So it is better to race something inferior cause it's free? Or race a better car I'm faster with and pay for it? I guess if I was in it to lose I'd race the free one.....but I like to win. Besides...500$, 700$, its chump change for a hobby, and absolutely laughable compared to what I spent on real racing.
Or maybe I just don't have to save up my lunch money to go race like those pining for scraps, discounted parts, and a free T shirt so I can have some delusional self image of importance when I'm filling out a sponsor sheet In this hobby there are racers and there are posers....I see what category you fit in
Or maybe I just don't have to save up my lunch money to go race like those pining for scraps, discounted parts, and a free T shirt so I can have some delusional self image of importance when I'm filling out a sponsor sheet
In this hobby there are racers and there are posers....I see what category you fit in
03-29-2009, 06:21 PM
#30
Its well know that if any fuel hits the fiber brakes, they fade in and out and basically suck. I ran the 8ights for a year and a half.........I know EXACTLY what happens when they get splashed, you can pretend otherwise but it wont make it right The brakes are just one of the many issues the cars have though......anyone that has time on the cars know them all too well.
I know the Losi's are appealing because they are dirt cheap and many like to swing from the Drake's nether regions, but their quality reflects the price. I wouldn't run a losi if they gave me a full ride......... I'd much sooner spend my money on a kyosho or mugen than drive a losi for free.....
Not to bash Losi uneccessarily, I ran their cars back in the day and loved them. Coming back to Losi after a career of real racing though, has really dissappointed me with their drop in quality over the years. Obviously, when Gil left, he was more than a little dissappointed in the direction the company was headed as well..... You can run em if you want to, but there are CERTAINLY better choices available.
The brakes are just one of the many issues the cars have though......anyone that has time on the cars know them all too well.I know the Losi's are appealing because they are dirt cheap and many like to swing from the Drake's nether regions, but their quality reflects the price. I wouldn't run a losi if they gave me a full ride......... I'd much sooner spend my money on a kyosho or mugen than drive a losi for free.....
Not to bash Losi uneccessarily, I ran their cars back in the day and loved them. Coming back to Losi after a career of real racing though, has really dissappointed me with their drop in quality over the years. Obviously, when Gil left, he was more than a little dissappointed in the direction the company was headed as well..... You can run em if you want to, but there are CERTAINLY better choices available.