Throttle/brake servo broke... again!!! (3rd replacement!)
#17
The 2143 is meant more for steering because of the speed. It would be a terrible waste to put it on the throttle. For the throttle / brake servo, it is better to put a high torque servo although a little slower.
If any servo is left for very long time in fail safe position, it'll burn the motor out.
If any servo is left for very long time in fail safe position, it'll burn the motor out.
#18
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,213
Correct:
High torque servo for throttle/brake application
High speed for steering application.
In any case, I suggest NOT using digital servo on throttle/brake application. Just my $0.02.
i dig a quick search of the web .. below are some info I found:
a) Argument 1:
A digital servo can fail in a way that is very hazardous for a
throttle control. They can stick in the WOT position and not respond to a return spring or a failsafe(!).
b) Argument 2 (open to debate .. depending on how you set up your car):
when you are on the track during warm-up for your mains, and you are over shooting the
turns because you need more brakes, what do you do? - pull off the track and skip the main? - no, you turn the EPA up a few clicks on your controller until your car has enough braking power, right? This in turn is putting a major strain on your throttle servo. digital servos work way faster and harder and draw more current than a standard servo. If you hold full brakes on for too long, the servo will overheat and fail.
c) Argument 3 - simply relates to how throttle servos are used:
When braking hard each time, you are more likely to keep the throttle servo at full lock for an extended period of time. Add the load of an accelerating buggy to that and you've got your servo working over time for that period.
With steering servos, you usually do not need to lock it at full steering and even if you do, you do not need to maintain it at that position for an extended time unless you want to go in circles

i prefer the old faithful analog futaba 9402 on my throttle
High torque servo for throttle/brake application
High speed for steering application.
In any case, I suggest NOT using digital servo on throttle/brake application. Just my $0.02.
i dig a quick search of the web .. below are some info I found:
a) Argument 1:
A digital servo can fail in a way that is very hazardous for a
throttle control. They can stick in the WOT position and not respond to a return spring or a failsafe(!).
b) Argument 2 (open to debate .. depending on how you set up your car):
when you are on the track during warm-up for your mains, and you are over shooting the
turns because you need more brakes, what do you do? - pull off the track and skip the main? - no, you turn the EPA up a few clicks on your controller until your car has enough braking power, right? This in turn is putting a major strain on your throttle servo. digital servos work way faster and harder and draw more current than a standard servo. If you hold full brakes on for too long, the servo will overheat and fail.
c) Argument 3 - simply relates to how throttle servos are used:
When braking hard each time, you are more likely to keep the throttle servo at full lock for an extended period of time. Add the load of an accelerating buggy to that and you've got your servo working over time for that period.
With steering servos, you usually do not need to lock it at full steering and even if you do, you do not need to maintain it at that position for an extended time unless you want to go in circles

i prefer the old faithful analog futaba 9402 on my throttle
#20
For me it is so simple ... SX112 for the throttle/brake and 9402 for the steering. I run one way, there is no issue of braking hard and burning my servo out! Hahaha ... but seriuosly, I need to get rid of the SX112 ... want to use rubber band for fail safe and the SX112 is not a happy bunny with the extra strain. Probably use my 9402 for throttle and then get a new servo for my steering. No matter what I still love my MX3, despite the menu always going nuts when you are on NICADS.
#21
Guys. When i got into this hobby, i got myself a M8 with 2 VB servos.
I am still using both this servo on my steering and my throttle linkage.
Is there any problem tat will arrise like the problem sonep is facing now???
I am still using both this servo on my steering and my throttle linkage.
Is there any problem tat will arrise like the problem sonep is facing now???
#22
Originally posted by AdR|aN
Guys. When i got into this hobby, i got myself a M8 with 2 VB servos.
I am still using both this servo on my steering and my throttle linkage.
Is there any problem tat will arrise like the problem sonep is facing now???
Guys. When i got into this hobby, i got myself a M8 with 2 VB servos.
I am still using both this servo on my steering and my throttle linkage.
Is there any problem tat will arrise like the problem sonep is facing now???
That is why I still say that getting a good radio gear and servos are an investment. It will see you through to good and bad times !
Last edited by InitialD; 10-01-2003 at 01:00 AM.
#24
how long was it???? perhaps, it's a good time to double check it now???
Originally posted by AdR|aN
Guys. When i got into this hobby, i got myself a M8 with 2 VB servos.
I am still using both this servo on my steering and my throttle linkage.
Is there any problem tat will arrise like the problem sonep is facing now???
Guys. When i got into this hobby, i got myself a M8 with 2 VB servos.
I am still using both this servo on my steering and my throttle linkage.
Is there any problem tat will arrise like the problem sonep is facing now???
#25
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,213
Originally posted by Windtalkers
how long was it???? perhaps, it's a good time to double check it now???
how long was it???? perhaps, it's a good time to double check it now???
You typically use it until it kaputs .. then you establish the Mean Time To Failure yourself

Seriously, as far as I know, there's no way to check except to keep it dry, clean & healthy (meaning - no binding, no excessive throw, reduced vibration).
There are many things that can fail in the servo, the circuit, the potentiometer, gears stripped, etc ..
A happy servo = a happy driver
#26
Originally posted by wyl03
Er, double check what? servo?
You typically use it until it kaputs .. then you establish the Mean Time To Failure yourself
Er, double check what? servo?
You typically use it until it kaputs .. then you establish the Mean Time To Failure yourself
Yeah, I agree with you that servos failing can be a somewhat of a stroke of luck or unforced error when somebody hits you exactly where you should not be hit !!.




