<<AE 12L4,crc t force,corally SP12X,yokomo has one and im sure a few others.all of the 1/12ths out are all based off the AE car in one way or another.there are many different chassis conversions for most all of the 1/12th out there being that they are all so similar.there are some variations of front ends that all stem from the AE style front end.the new CRC front end seems to be nice and probably of higher quality than the AE front end but in the end,its the same end result that looks slightly different.in a nutshell,any of the tplate cars mentioned will work well being that they are all similar.there are conversion kits out that change the handling of the car from stock if you prefer to do so.>>

Ok thanks Jason.

Okay, I took down these notes along with Mark's and starting cutting tires and prepping my car and noticed something unusual. In my TC, we always gear much higher our 19t motors than our stock, but the advice posted shows a pretty low gearing for 19t in 1/12th compared to stock. Is this right, or am I missing something? I always thought 19t motors were supposed to be geared to the moon and with the rollout suggested, it is pretty low. Does it have something to do with the Komodo D maybe? Also, what about a checkpoint money 19t?

U may want to have a look at the darkside MX-12

Thanks for the help guys.

on asphalt i run the KD and i run my rear tires at 1.825 and roll it out at 47mm.this is with full face F's and green springs + and -.the car is fast as hell and seemed to be the sweet spot for the KD.the KD doesnt take as much gear as the checkpoint,reedy quad,c2.but they still manage to be extremely fast when geared correctly.

Anybody here run at Allen's RC cars here in Central IL? I used to know a forum where all the locals hung out but I can't seem to remember it.

you can try the racing forum under general forums.i know there is a bunch of different track discussion from all over in there.

Ya I tried that and the one I found here was outdated, last post was this time last year.

Thanks though...........

Okay, now I'm still confused. Your suggestions fall in line to what I'm used to for those kind of motors and what I would expect for the KD, but look at the advice Brian Bodine gave me and what Travis Schreven and Mark ran... it's much lower? Is everyone that much off? Help!

we run every weekend for now ...www.allensrccars.com

yeah,the gearing does look different.the gearing they are running may be for a somewhat tight carpet track.i think i dropped about 2 teeth last time i ran carpet.i dont remember exactly what i ran then but for asphalt i found 47mm to work at both tracks i run at and had tons of top end and punch.the power never faded throughout 8 minutes.i was running 13.1's,2's,and 3's up front and finished with a 13.4.

Thanks. I guess I'll start where you are and where I thought I'd be at and go from there; but their gearing is real low and that's a lot of testing to figure out initially.

I went to there site and didn't find any mention of any forum or links to one.

I have raced there in the past I just wanted to talk to some of the locals about the 1/12 scale class if there still is one.

For the 12th scale gurus out there, what is a good setup for the Epic X-stock motor ( brushes, springs, and general ideal rollout for asphalt)? The track has a 75 ft straight-away. I am having problems finding the X-stocks sweet spot that makes it fast and strong.

<U may want to have a look at the darkside MX-12>

Customworksking, what car is the darkside MX-12 and who is the car made by?

Chris