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Old 09-04-2006 | 12:38 AM
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Just wanted to let everyone know that the D12 V2 kit is now available to purchase. If you would like to purchase one then go here: D12 V2

Here are some pics of the black production kit:





If you would like to see more pics then go here: Pics
Looks nice! Could you explain how the rear suspension works?
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Old 09-04-2006 | 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by wallyedmonds
how do you put the batts in
To put the batteries in and take them out, you will have to pop one side of the ballcups on each dampener and also the shock, then three screws! Beats tapeing and it becomes a habit after a couple times of doing it

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Old 09-04-2006 | 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Pro ten Holland
Looks nice! Could you explain how the rear suspension works?
The rear Ubrace and bottom pod plate use a three spring suspension design, there is a middle spring that is adjustable (using different lb springs) that allows the pod to move side to side and front to back, there are two springs on both sides of the Ubrace (similar to a CRC) that is also adjustable (using different lb springs). Then on top there is the center shock and the two dampener tubes. Hopefully that kinda answers your question!!
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Old 09-04-2006 | 01:07 AM
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Interesting concept!
How do you make sure the center sping pivots freely? It looks like the rear suspension pivots around the center screw's head?
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Old 09-04-2006 | 01:58 AM
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Question 12r gurus: Just ran carpet 12th for the first time. My motor was SUPER HOT !!! I dropped two teeth and it was better and still hot. My gearing is on for asphalt but at the carpet track the motor was getting ultra hot! Is that normal?? The gearing felt appropriate for the track size and layout. Komodo 19t.
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Old 09-04-2006 | 05:25 AM
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I have experience with 1/12 on carpet, but could it be the fur getting stuck somewhere in your bearings or whereever that might load up the motor?
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Old 09-04-2006 | 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by GrandeGixxer
Is there any way to get the front end grip to come down at the beginning of the heat, and stay consistant for the whole 8 minutes? For about the first minute and a half or so, the front grip is so high, it is on the verge of spinning out. After that, it is fine for the remainder of the race. Is there any way to make it the same for 8 minutes?

It maybe that your rears are not fully dry before you hit the track. Are you rubbing the additive into the foams with an old towel/rag, back and front in the last 8 mins before your heat starts?

If you don't it can give the effect of over-steer as the foams are still moist on the surface = slippy rear end
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Old 09-04-2006 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by GrandeGixxer
Is there any way to get the front end grip to come down at the beginning of the heat, and stay consistant for the whole 8 minutes? For about the first minute and a half or so, the front grip is so high, it is on the verge of spinning out. After that, it is fine for the remainder of the race. Is there any way to make it the same for 8 minutes?
Mike Dunnigan, former 1/12 national champ, used to run very small fronts, but would dope the whole tire so it remained consistent for the whole race. This was a couple years ago, and he ran the "new" AE front end, which you can run smaller tires on than average. I think his fronts were in the 1.6-1.7" range. This may not be the whole story, but he did tell me about it at a race a few years ago. Super nice guy.
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Old 09-04-2006 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by RAL
Question 12r gurus: Just ran carpet 12th for the first time. My motor was SUPER HOT !!! I dropped two teeth and it was better and still hot. My gearing is on for asphalt but at the carpet track the motor was getting ultra hot! Is that normal?? The gearing felt appropriate for the track size and layout. Komodo 19t.
Hi Ral,

I dont have any 12th scale expereice but I can tell you that the KD's get HOT!! They pull huge amps and require a little different motor setup because of this. I cant help you out on Rollout as I dont race 12th scale but I can tell you that you can take a little off the edge of the brush either .010 off the trailing or .005 off the leading and trailing and it will reduce the amp draw a little and help with the heat.

But from my expereince I dont usually worry about motor temps as long as the motor is not fading more than normal during a 5 or 8 minute run and the motor is not burning up.

Hope this helps.

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Old 09-04-2006 | 09:58 AM
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you arent kidding about amp draw eric.with those top fuel F brushes you sent me,my KD was drawing 13.5 amps at 1.5 volts
i did like you said with cutting the trailing edge and it dropped to 10 amps.my RPM increased and the motor was one pissed off 19 turn.fast as hell.it did get kinda warm but it ran awesome.
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Old 09-04-2006 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by protc3
i did like you said with cutting the trailing edge and it dropped to 10 amps.my RPM increased and the motor was one pissed off 19 turn.fast as hell.it did get kinda warm but it ran awesome.
we've been doing it for the last 3 or 4 years in 12th in the UK with fixed timing on the BRCA legal motors.
Glyn Ward aka BRM Motors in the UK 1 st posted about it on Racechat. You should try his upright brush motor on 58mmpr (2.263 rollout). He's always saying we're undergeared
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Old 09-04-2006 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by EAMotorsports
Hi Ral,

I dont have any 12th scale expereice but I can tell you that the KD's get HOT!! They pull huge amps and require a little different motor setup because of this. I cant help you out on Rollout as I dont race 12th scale but I can tell you that you can take a little off the edge of the brush either .010 off the trailing or .005 off the leading and trailing and it will reduce the amp draw a little and help with the heat.

But from my expereince I dont usually worry about motor temps as long as the motor is not fading more than normal during a 5 or 8 minute run and the motor is not burning up.

Hope this helps.

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Hot on only 4 cells...Not my experience.
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Old 09-04-2006 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Still Bill
Hot on only 4 cells...Not my experience.
Jason's and my KD's are 190deg after a run...that pretty warm for 4 cells.
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Old 09-04-2006 | 03:44 PM
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but its all worth it!!
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Old 09-04-2006 | 09:01 PM
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A quick question for all you 1/12th scale pro's, I ran my car today and it is suffering from off power oversteer what is the best way to tune this out of the car?
Thanks Brendan
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