Community
Wiki Posts
Search

Ft myers graveyard

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-22-2006 | 03:41 PM
  #16  
Tech Champion
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 6,296
From: Oxnard, CA
Default

I doubt its the internal pressure, if it was, the engines wouldnt last very long.
The engine is the tallest part on 1/8th scale cars. With the wedge body, when one car hits another, the car that was hit probably hits the engines head, and thats when the crankcase breaks IMO.

You also have to take into consideration the inertia forces invloved, the car that is coming down the straight stops pretty quick when it hits the car other car.

It would be neat if some RC car company would be willing to donate a car to see how hard a car traveling at those speeds hits. I've heard of people breacking legs when they get hit.
nitrodude is offline  
Old 01-22-2006 | 03:46 PM
  #17  
Rapid Roy's Avatar
Tech Master
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 1,531
From: L.A. (Rowland Hts)
Default

I read the post to say that the other car was upside down. His car hit the upside down car. The upside down car just go punted while his car got the motor case busted. I can see this happening. The lola body leaves the engine open for direct contact. Happened to a friend with a 235mm. He hit a 4x12 board straight on at the end of the straight. His car blew a hole through the wood about 2 inches tall. The hole was too low for his engine so it tore the head and the top half of the case right off.
Rapid Roy is offline  
Old 01-22-2006 | 08:43 PM
  #18  
Motorman's Avatar
Tech Master
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,911
From: Michigan
Default

If an 8 lb bowling ball hit the side of a car at 70 what would the car look like? my guess is there would one hell of a dent in it.
Motorman is offline  
Old 01-23-2006 | 08:38 AM
  #19  
jag's Avatar
jag
Tech Master
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,168
From: So. Florida
Default

Peter, why don't you finish the story of the weekend by including the rod that Billy broke while borrowing your .12 RB?

Tough weekend...
jag is offline  
Old 01-23-2006 | 02:44 PM
  #20  
Tech Rookie
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 12
Default

G/day Guys
Just some quick calcs. to dispell any internal explosion myths !
The force from dissipating the energy in a crash with a 2600 gram (2.6 kg) car travelling at 75 mph is :-
stopping in 1 sec - 9kg.
stopping in .1 sec - 88kg.
stopping in .01 sec - 888kg.
so if it hits a solid steel barrier that doesn't budge - 1000kg would be possible. Hitting another car could be anything from 50 to 200 kg of force! That's why the engines shatter.
It's also why I used to hate marshalling the straight or turn off the straight !
Regards Richard
GreyPower is offline  
Old 01-23-2006 | 04:20 PM
  #21  
Tech Adept
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 199
From: mentor, ohio
Default

Originally Posted by Rapid Roy
I read the post to say that the other car was upside down. His car hit the upside down car. The upside down car just go punted while his car got the motor case busted. I can see this happening. The lola body leaves the engine open for direct contact. Happened to a friend with a 235mm. He hit a 4x12 board straight on at the end of the straight. His car blew a hole through the wood about 2 inches tall. The hole was too low for his engine so it tore the head and the top half of the case right off.
Lol that sucks but is funny
Dan D is offline  
Old 01-23-2006 | 06:32 PM
  #22  
hav_lova's Avatar
Tech Master
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,387
From: Sydney Model Autosports (SMA)
Default

Originally Posted by GreyPower
G/day Guys
Just some quick calcs. to dispell any internal explosion myths !
The force from dissipating the energy in a crash with a 2600 gram (2.6 kg) car travelling at 75 mph is :-
stopping in 1 sec - 9kg.
stopping in .1 sec - 88kg.
stopping in .01 sec - 888kg.
so if it hits a solid steel barrier that doesn't budge - 1000kg would be possible. Hitting another car could be anything from 50 to 200 kg of force! That's why the engines shatter.
It's also why I used to hate marshalling the straight or turn off the straight !
Regards Richard

Just talking about this aspect, an R/C could quiet easily break your leg then couldn't it... ouch...
hav_lova is offline  
Old 01-23-2006 | 08:38 PM
  #23  
Speedypeterb's Avatar
Thread Starter
Tech Fanatic
iTrader: (16)
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 775
From: Pompano Beach FL.
Default

yeah its a heck of an impact, the roll bar in front of the engine left its imprint on the head. i mean a straight line on every cooling fin, now thats an impact, oh yeah never did find that roll bar either. Peter
Speedypeterb is offline  
Old 01-23-2006 | 09:14 PM
  #24  
Tech Regular
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 293
Default

may be we can look at it from another angle. At 16.8mm stroke, assuming that the piston is traveling in constant speed (which it is not, as in each stroke there is a change of direction). At 35,000rpm, your piston is traveling at 70.6km/hr inside your engine. Add that to a serious impact, almost any crank case is going to crack.

Novarossi did put out a disclaimer in the Serpent Veteq days... where they did not design their engine to be part of the stress member in the chassis. If the impact is on the engine, it will give the same effect.
slooookomo is offline  
Old 01-24-2006 | 05:37 AM
  #25  
E.T.'s Avatar
Tech Regular
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 315
From: $ $ $ $ $ $
Default

Hmmm.... this sounds silly, but anyone thought of installing a little roll cage for the engine....?? Some aftermarket made them for 1/8th monster truck.

Last edited by E.T.; 01-24-2006 at 06:05 AM.
E.T. is offline  

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.