2787LikesGT12-“Rubber Tire”
05-14-2026 | 04:51 AM
#2821
I ran a series called the Carpet Racing League. We did not have a body cut rule. Didn’t think we needed one as all bodies had a cut line across the back. The touring car guys started to push that rule. One guy cut half the bumper off then no bumpers, etc. I didn’t take things seriously enough, thinking does this really matter. I flippantly said, can we at least have tail lights. For the second round of qualifying, three of the faster racers cut the entire back of the body out and affixed tail light stickers by their corners to the trunk deck. The light stickers would fly in the wind like capes off the back of the car. Point made - we needed a rule because RC racers will push everything.
So, back at them because I can be a dick too. For round three, all touring car bodies needed to have a rear bumper that measures 1/4” vertically after the bumper downturn. And if you do not have time to paint another body for the 3rd round and main, tape could be used to fill in the back of the body for the remainder of that race day.
You guys are pushing a rule that does not need to be pushed, in my opinion. For the SuperRad body, the website clearly shows that area not cut out, a sticker of exhausts is included for it, and though faint there is a body line there. If I were to restart the Carpet Racing League, I would make sure to include a body line rule and with a statement like if any body has a faint body line or a competitor challenges how high someone has cut the body, that tech should reference online photos of the body from the manufacturer to make a ruling.
So, back at them because I can be a dick too. For round three, all touring car bodies needed to have a rear bumper that measures 1/4” vertically after the bumper downturn. And if you do not have time to paint another body for the 3rd round and main, tape could be used to fill in the back of the body for the remainder of that race day.
You guys are pushing a rule that does not need to be pushed, in my opinion. For the SuperRad body, the website clearly shows that area not cut out, a sticker of exhausts is included for it, and though faint there is a body line there. If I were to restart the Carpet Racing League, I would make sure to include a body line rule and with a statement like if any body has a faint body line or a competitor challenges how high someone has cut the body, that tech should reference online photos of the body from the manufacturer to make a ruling.
05-14-2026 | 04:55 AM
#2822
I get where you're coming from. I did not intend to break or bind any rules. There is a line with very tiny dots. I had 2 bodys and cut that section out of one. I raced that body at Austintown, Queen city, and Access. Multiple people have looked at it and have asked if it did anything differently? Thank you for the education and I won't use that body.
05-14-2026 | 06:01 AM
#2823
The lack of an enforced national set of rules is the biggest issue with RC racing and will ultimately doom the hobby in regards to competition. The biggest issue we have here in the states everyone wants to invent a class they can dominate once they are not the top dog in an existing class instead of facing the facts that unless they put the work in they will be down in the mid pack, which there is nothing wrong with that, at least you would have close racing in lower mains with racers of similar skill.
Every other kind of competitive sport has a national set of rules for everyone to follow with miner adjustments geographically to fit the area, but the base rules are the same. If you look at youth baseball all tournaments follow a specified set of rules whether they are MLB rules, college rules, or NFHS rules with miner tweaks depending on the sanctioning body whether it be USA or USSSA. bottom line is you know the rules before entering the tournament. RC manufacturers follow ROAR and IFMAR guidelines when they make motors, ESC's, batteries, etc but most RC racers don't want to follow the rules for whatever reason and create their own rules which then creates the issues we have in our way too many classes for on road racing.
Every other kind of competitive sport has a national set of rules for everyone to follow with miner adjustments geographically to fit the area, but the base rules are the same. If you look at youth baseball all tournaments follow a specified set of rules whether they are MLB rules, college rules, or NFHS rules with miner tweaks depending on the sanctioning body whether it be USA or USSSA. bottom line is you know the rules before entering the tournament. RC manufacturers follow ROAR and IFMAR guidelines when they make motors, ESC's, batteries, etc but most RC racers don't want to follow the rules for whatever reason and create their own rules which then creates the issues we have in our way too many classes for on road racing.
05-14-2026 | 11:08 AM
#2824
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 2,856
From: Marietta, Ga
IMO this would make a good addition to the GT12 rules. The block usage is great because you can use a 23 or 33mm plug gage and it doesn't matter what the ride height is set to, your datum is the bottom of the chassis.
"The rear of the body may not be cut higher than 16mm above race surface (incl. assumed ride
height of 3mm). This is equivalent to a maximum of 23mm when the chassis is resting on 10mm
blocks or a maximum of 33mm when the chassis is resting on 20mm blocks."
These rules on the SuperKura put the cut like about where this mark is on the RH bumper side, which a straight line across its only about 1-2mm above the "cut line" where the sticker ends. I'm not sure if that works out for other bodies though, so it would have to be checked on those and whichever body is the highest needs to end up being the standard measurement everyone can work with.
"The rear of the body may not be cut higher than 16mm above race surface (incl. assumed ride
height of 3mm). This is equivalent to a maximum of 23mm when the chassis is resting on 10mm
blocks or a maximum of 33mm when the chassis is resting on 20mm blocks."
These rules on the SuperKura put the cut like about where this mark is on the RH bumper side, which a straight line across its only about 1-2mm above the "cut line" where the sticker ends. I'm not sure if that works out for other bodies though, so it would have to be checked on those and whichever body is the highest needs to end up being the standard measurement everyone can work with.
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