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Old 02-14-2022 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by oldfool
Isn't that gonna mess up the carpet if everyone does it?



Yeah, which is it.
Yep, most track owners will come after you with sharp objects if you burn off excess sauce on the track. It makes the track greasy and damages the fibers.

Originally Posted by Billy Kelly
Most usually have a separate carpet square to burn off the extra tire sauce.
Drivers should wipe their tires down so they're dry as possible before setting the car down. Wet tires take extra laps to 'come in' and make the track greasy for everyone. Using the square of carpet some tracks have does no good. Everyone else has already used it so it's saturated. Kind of like trying to wipe up a spill with a wet sponge.
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Old 02-14-2022 | 09:55 AM
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I'm with Rick on this one. Sauce w/SXT, wait 5 minutes, wipe off thoroughly with a cloth, no burnout. Running small to medium-sized indoor track w/black carpet.
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Old 02-14-2022 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by theproffesor
I’ve have yet to see a carpet track that didn’t allow sauce. If you know of one ( or more) that don’t, could you please let us know? And what is there reasoning?.
NorCal Hobbies, San Jose. It's a permanent indoor track. As for "why", you'd have to ask Erick (the owner).
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Old 02-14-2022 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Panther6834
NorCal Hobbies, San Jose. It's a permanent indoor track. As for "why", you'd have to ask Erick (the owner).
Norcal’s indoor track is off-road so they don’t need sauce.
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Old 02-14-2022 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott B
Norcal’s indoor track is off-road so they don’t need sauce.
If it's off-road the majority of the time...but, NOT always. At the same time, "on-road" & "off-road" was never part of the original question. I understand that USGT is an on-road class...but, the question appeared to be purely about 'sauce' & 'carpet tracks'.
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Old 02-14-2022 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Panther6834
If it's off-road the majority of the time...but, NOT always.
LOL - NorCal laid the carpet over the old dirt track, I assure you they do not run on road on that carpet.
And the owners name is Eric - not Erick.
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Old 02-14-2022 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by belewis01
LOL - NorCal laid the carpet over the old dirt track, I assure you they do not run on road on that carpet.
And the owners name is Eric - not Erick.
1) Incorrect...the old track was clay, not dirt.
Since being converted to carpet, there HAS been some on-road. Last summer, for several weeks, ALL jumps were removed, turning the 'field' (temporarily) into an on-road track.
3) So my phone keyboard made a typo that I didn't catch before hitting the 'submit' button. Whoopty-doo. It's not the end of the world.
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Old 02-15-2022 | 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Panther6834
If it's off-road the majority of the time...but, NOT always. At the same time, "on-road" & "off-road" was never part of the original question. I understand that USGT is an on-road class...but, the question appeared to be purely about 'sauce' & 'carpet tracks'.
Flare65 timberline97 where specifically talking about how to break in USGT tires.
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Old 02-15-2022 | 06:39 AM
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Old 02-18-2022 | 08:39 AM
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For the USGT motor, how consistent are the motors, motor to motor these days as far as performance?

Basically wondering if these could be good motors if a 21.5 class got going here for say 2wd buggy. I have heard that places that use the hobbywing 21.5 motor have seen significant RPM variance motor to motor (like 10% from what they are saying) so curious maybe this could be better option to use.

Lastly, other than more timing on the oval motor, is there anythng different about the USGT Oval motor and would these be a better or worse option for 2wd buggy, in your opinion? (sorry don't know much about these)

Thanks beforehand for any help!
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Old 02-19-2022 | 05:51 PM
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For the USGT motor, how consistent are the motors, motor to motor these days as far as performance?

Basically wondering if these could be good motors if a 21.5 class got going here for say 2wd buggy. I have heard that places that use the hobbywing 21.5 motor have seen significant RPM variance motor to motor (like 10% from what they are saying) so curious maybe this could be better option to use.

Lastly, other than more timing on the oval motor, is there anythng different about the USGT Oval motor and would these be a better or worse option for 2wd buggy, in your opinion? (sorry don't know much about these)

Thanks beforehand for any help!
im my experience, despite the motors having some slight differences here and there ( 200-300 rpm and maybe .2-.3 amps ), they have ran the same on the race track. its an amazing motor for spec style races. i have seen some dirt oval and some off road classes utilize it. compaired to pen 21.5 motors however, it is lacking power. so if you run it against other open 21.5s u will be down on power, and will need to run a lot more gear then they will.
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Old 02-20-2022 | 07:36 AM
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The USGT motor is PERFECT for all spec classes where everyone runs the same motor. There isnt a wide variance from motor to motor. I liked the motor when we ran it here locally. It didn’t last as racers kept complaining that it’s not as fast as my XYZ motor…..blah, blah, blah. Racing was fun and bit closer for some.

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Old 02-20-2022 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by STLNLST
The USGT motor is PERFECT for all spec classes where everyone runs the same motor. There isnt a wide variance from motor to motor. I liked the motor when we ran it here locally. It didn’t last as racers kept complaining that it’s not as fast as my XYZ motor…..blah, blah, blah. Racing was fun and bit closer for some.
I agree with this statement and along these lines, I have a question about the batteries. I am currently running a Ultra Low CG battery and they tend to have higher internal resistance. My current battery is running mid 4's for IR. I know this is high, but can anyone comment on how much this is hurting my power? I know a good battery has IR's in the mid 1's, but it's just one resistance in a series of resistances, so how much does the extra 3 mOhms hurt when the total resistance is over 30 ohms. So can I assume that increasing by 3 milli ohms only increases total resistance by .003/30.001 = .01%. Am I looking at this properly and if I am, then why worry that much about IR? I doubt if it is that simple.

EDIT: I guess a better way to look at it is to just look at the battery. If we assume we are pulling 50 amps under full acceleration, then the voltage drop through the good battery is 50 x .0015 = .075 volts. For the ULCG used battery it is 50 x .0045 = .225 volts or an increase voltage loss of .15 volts. This is a loss of 1.8% based on 8.4 volts. That seems a lot more significant than what I listed above. Guess it's time to get a new battery and to get a LCG, not a ULCG battery.

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Old 02-20-2022 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by glennhl
I agree with this statement and along these lines, I have a question about the batteries. I am currently running a Ultra Low CG battery and they tend to have higher internal resistance. My current battery is running mid 4's for IR. I know this is high, but can anyone comment on how much this is hurting my power? I know a good battery has IR's in the mid 1's, but it's just one resistance in a series of resistances, so how much does the extra 3 mOhms hurt when the total resistance is over 30 ohms. So can I assume that increasing by 3 milli ohms only increases total resistance by .003/30.001 = .01%. Am I looking at this properly and if I am, then why worry that much about IR? I doubt if it is that simple.
simple answer would be yes & no. The lower IR pack will give you more punch out of the corners and will everything being equal laptimes should slightly be faster. Car setup also falls into play. Could be easier to keep corner speed up with a less punchy pack that helps you be smoother on the trigger. There is no right or wrong answer IMO. There are some that will state lower IR is the only way to go. I’m curious to read the replies myself🤔

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Old 02-20-2022 | 08:27 PM
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EA has told me that the Low CG packs made the car handle so much better the voltage/ir difference was not a concern. It seems to work for him.
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