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Old 01-15-2020 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Erhard
Very very clear rule is 4.20V as you see on the pictures taken from the event (Thanks to 1/12 forum)
and certainly easy to understand for driver and team already during qualifying.

Rules of rounding numbers is that 4.20499999999 is 4.20 and 4.2050000000000 etc. is 4.21.
Voltage meters of medium price are good for 1/1000Volts accuracy. So you just have to make sure to be below 4.204.
Just had to fill in these missing zeros.
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Old 01-15-2020 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by DirkW
Just had to fill in these missing zeros.
Ahhh, thank you.....That was driving me crazy
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Old 01-15-2020 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by EDWARD2003
True, he can't speak or understand a word of English, but he has a Yokomo Team supporting him and clearly knew of the warning. Not sure as to why they didn't sort it out for A2.
In Japan, they have a discharging station setup right at the tech table. If you're over the voltage requirements they let you drop the voltage down before going out on the track.
lol @ Yokomo Team 'supporting'

As Troy said, I am not sure that Yoshi ever understood what they stated to him in Tech and that it clicked that he had received a warning. It wasn't until after he failed tech in A2 that the situation was explained to Teru, who was able to translate and explain. Tough situation on the whole.

Doesn't matter what they do in Japan. This is Worlds, different rules, different situation.

As a practical example of the language barrier, see if there is any video of the A final when they announced the names of each driver and had them step forward on the drivers stand. Pretty clear that Yoshi had no idea what was going on.
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Old 01-15-2020 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by LloydLoar
lol @ Yokomo Team 'supporting'

As Troy said, I am not sure that Yoshi ever understood what they stated to him in Tech and that it clicked that he had received a warning. It wasn't until after he failed tech in A2 that the situation was explained to Teru, who was able to translate and explain. Tough situation on the whole.

Doesn't matter what they do in Japan. This is Worlds, different rules, different situation.

As a practical example of the language barrier, see if there is any video of the A final when they announced the names of each driver and had them step forward on the drivers stand. Pretty clear that Yoshi had no idea what was going on.
The language barrier was for sure an issue to properly understand the warning and rules.
But on the other hand he and the whole team knew that he doesn’t speak any english and they should have take care of that beforehand to prevent any issues.
There were a lot of drivers from non english speaking countries and they prepared themselves.
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Old 01-15-2020 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by silden
The language barrier was for sure an issue to properly understand the warning and rules.
But on the other hand he and the whole team knew that he doesn’t speak any english and they should have take care of that beforehand to prevent any issues.
There were a lot of drivers from non english speaking countries and they prepared themselves.
Yes, I agree. I also think that there is some variety of obligation to ensure warnings are properly communicated, though. When you speak to Yoshi it is pretty clear that he doesn't understand English, so in hindsight it would have been prudent for tech to seek confirmation of the warning. What is done is done and as I said before - tough situation.
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Old 01-15-2020 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Erhard
Hello Oleg, great car!

I totally agree. Camber is something to prevent wheels from coning. There is no freedom in it. Regarding roll center - Do you agree that roll center of front is the height of the track? Thus, roll center in rear is always higher.
I assume your design doesnt have a pivot-joint like the conventional link cars have. giving you clearance for the battery.
Very cool design! I like the aluminium platte for the pod, helping a bit to keep the motor cool = cool feature, one of many.
Looking forward to seeing more of the details and the final production car!
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Hello Erhard, yes, the front roll center of our car is on track. Rear roll center is a bit higher. Our car also has a pivot-joint but in front of the battery and lower compare to others 1/12 cars.
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Old 01-15-2020 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Oleg Babich
Hello Erhard, yes, the front roll center of our car is on track. Rear roll center is a bit higher. Our car also has a pivot-joint but in front of the battery and lower compare to others 1/12 cars.
Hmmmh,
but your joint only alows for a roll movement, right?
Classical link cars joints alow roll and up/ down of rear axle related to main chassis.
Up/down or lets say rear spring movement has a pivot near to those side screws.
Thus your squat angle is pretty flat compared to usual.
However very interesting!

Hope soon someone opens a specific thread for this.

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Old 01-15-2020 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Erhard
Hmmmh,
but your joint only alows for a roll movement, right?
Classical link cars joints alow roll and up/ down of rear axle related to main chassis.
Up/down or lets say rear spring movement has a pivot near to those side screws.
Thus your squat angle is pretty flat compared to usual.
However very interesting!
Hope soon someone opens a specific thread for this.
BR Erhard
Two ball joints placed along the longitudinal axis are on our car. Yes, it allows only roll movement.
Vertical movement of the rear pod is via flex.
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Old 01-15-2020 | 12:24 PM
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Until you hold the Awesomatix 1/12 in your hands you won't understand how it works. I assume you at first you'll believe the car is broken... But ultimately you are just holding it wrong
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Old 01-15-2020 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by hanulec
Until you hold the Awesomatix 1/12 in your hands you won't understand how it works. I assume you at first you'll believe the car is broken... But ultimately you are just holding it wrong
I had the chance to see it and it looks awesome. All I want to know is when I can order mine
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Old 01-15-2020 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Erhard
Hmmmh,
but your joint only alows for a roll movement, right?
Classical link cars joints alow roll and up/ down of rear axle related to main chassis.
Up/down or lets say rear spring movement has a pivot near to those side screws.
Thus your squat angle is pretty flat compared to usual.
However very interesting!

Hope soon someone opens a specific thread for this.

BR Erhard
perhaps waiting till theres a realistic idea of when it would be available. Otherwise it’s gonna end up like the Losi buggy thread. Months of speculation.


Don’t get me wrong. Car looks fascinating, having just stepped into 1/12.
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Old 01-15-2020 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by hanulec
Until you hold the Awesomatix 1/12 in your hands you won't understand how it works. I assume you at first you'll believe the car is broken... But ultimately you are just holding it wrong
Looks like the a cool link/T bar combo. Does it drive more like a t-bar car did?
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Old 01-15-2020 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Billy Kelly
perhaps waiting till theres a realistic idea of when it would be available. Otherwise it’s gonna end up like the Losi buggy thread. Months of speculation.


Don’t get me wrong. Car looks fascinating, having just stepped into 1/12.

Having the discussion and speculation contained in a central location might be beneficial though instead of having it buried in the generic 1/12 thread
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Old 01-15-2020 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisP
Having the discussion and speculation contained in a central location might be beneficial though instead of having it buried in the generic 1/12 thread
True. I just watched as that Losi thread spiraled into silliness. Started good but turned.
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Old 01-15-2020 | 11:28 PM
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1/12th World Championship report by Schumacher.

https://www.racing-cars.com/news/rac...champions-2020

And Marc Rheinard, Andy Murray and Michal Orlowski setup sheets are available here.

https://www.racing-cars.com/technica...tion-eclipse-3
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