Community
Wiki Posts
Search
Like Tree2991Likes

1/12 forum

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-02-2017 | 04:40 PM
  #45871  
Tech Master
iTrader: (52)
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,455
From: Spokane, WA
Default

I remember not having the fastest ESC back in the days of boost.
biz77 is offline  
Old 10-02-2017 | 04:54 PM
  #45872  
Tech Master
iTrader: (52)
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,455
From: Spokane, WA
Default

Just took a look at the approval list... The only 17.5 Monster Max appearing on it is the basic TEP1506 which has a list price of $139.95 and sells for $90-$100.
biz77 is offline  
Old 10-02-2017 | 06:03 PM
  #45873  
Tech Master
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,799
From: New Bern, N.C.
Default

Originally Posted by biz77
Just took a look at the approval list... The only 17.5 Monster Max appearing on it is the basic TEP1506 which has a list price of $139.95 and sells for $90-$100.
Jeez, even a limit of “just” $150 for a motor is IMO pretty ridiculous. I long for the days when the modest entry fee for most major races was somewhere between $40-$60 and that fee even included a handout motor, albeit a brushed one. Extra motors could be had for just $20-$25. Lately the price of keeping up with competitive brushless horsepower is really getting out of hand and increasingly more difficult to justify.
vafactor is offline  
Old 10-02-2017 | 08:05 PM
  #45874  
Pinkz's Avatar
Tech Regular
 
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 301
From: Down in a Hole
Default

talking to veteran racers, appears ROAR had a opportunity, but never acted to put a leash on spec motors in the transition years to brushless, and lost control of a time when stock motors were cheaper than open brushed motors, but there was a quality difference like bearings etc. i can see why a spec brushless motor is the same price as a open motor these days, but spec motors being allowed to go to $150, exceed cost of open motors, and then not being able to prove it's over the limit? something really wrong there. i see alot of motors pimped to 149.99, some still at 174.99, not sure if a coupon discount would make them legal? plus hobbyshops may not be able to match a 149.99 price? some motors i think you can exceed the 149.99 price with all the options if done direct from company. i hear racers talking of 1-2% motors that are not officially advertised that blow those away in price...RC urban legend?

curious what is the case for those who bought the $150+ motors before the 1 Oct ruling?

https://www.amainhobbies.com/sensore...tPrice&lg=fk27

https://shop.stormerhobbies.com/cate...how=100&page=1


.
Pinkz is offline  
Old 10-03-2017 | 12:08 AM
  #45875  
silden's Avatar
Tech Fanatic
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 982
From: Los Angeles
Default

Originally Posted by Pinkz
talking to veteran racers, appears ROAR had a opportunity, but never acted to put a leash on spec motors in the transition years to brushless, and lost control of a time when stock motors were cheaper than open brushed motors, but there was a quality difference like bearings etc. i can see why a spec brushless motor is the same price as a open motor these days, but spec motors being allowed to go to $150, exceed cost of open motors, and then not being able to prove it's over the limit? something really wrong there. i see alot of motors pimped to 149.99, some still at 174.99, not sure if a coupon discount would make them legal? plus hobbyshops may not be able to match a 149.99 price? some motors i think you can exceed the 149.99 price with all the options if done direct from company. i hear racers talking of 1-2% motors that are not officially advertised that blow those away in price...RC urban legend?

curious what is the case for those who bought the $150+ motors before the 1 Oct ruling?

https://www.amainhobbies.com/sensore...tPrice&lg=fk27

https://shop.stormerhobbies.com/cate...how=100&page=1


.
The rule change only applies to motors, which have been sent for approval and will be approved on or after the October 1 cutoff date.
Approved motors will be still approved.
That is my understanding on this matter.
silden is offline  
Old 10-03-2017 | 05:13 AM
  #45876  
simple's Avatar
Tech Master
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 1,102
From: Windsor, Ontario, Canada
Default

Originally Posted by biz77
Does anyone know the answer to this... I tried asking in the Trinity/Revtech thread and the question seemingly flipped the light switch off over there...

With ROAR's new $150.00 pricing rules in effect as of yesterday and Trinity's certified motors still selling for $164.95 and above on Trinity's site and retailer's sites, does that mean the Trinity certified motors will be pulled from the approval list? I would like to try out a new Monster Max, but I won't spend a dime on one if I can't run it.
Forgive me for my ignorance.....how does this apply to 1/12th? Is this a motor specification forum now?
slcf1 likes this.
simple is offline  
Old 10-03-2017 | 08:03 AM
  #45877  
Tech Master
iTrader: (52)
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,455
From: Spokane, WA
Default

Originally Posted by simple
Forgive me for my ignorance.....how does this apply to 1/12th? Is this a motor specification forum now?
Do you use motors in your 1/12th scales in Canada? Did you read the post where I stated I couldn't get an answer in another thread? I need a new motor (for my 1/12th scale) and don't want to buy one that is no longer going to be on the approved list due to the new ROAR rules. The answer to my questions applies to many different classes including 1/12th scale. Should we avoid discussing things like tire compounds, tire sauce and spring rates in this thread since those discussions could apply to other classes besides 1/12th scale specifically?
simple likes this.
biz77 is offline  
Old 10-03-2017 | 08:20 AM
  #45878  
Tech Master
iTrader: (52)
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,455
From: Spokane, WA
Default

Originally Posted by silden
The rule change only applies to motors, which have been sent for approval and will be approved on or after the October 1 cutoff date.
Approved motors will be still approved.
That is my understanding on this matter.
So if it was sent in and approved prior to October 1st at a price greater than $150 it can continue to be sold at that price?

Think I will just go TSR 2.0. both the standard and The One variants are clearly approved.
biz77 is offline  
Old 10-03-2017 | 08:43 AM
  #45879  
ZEe_NYC's Avatar
Tech Fanatic
iTrader: (78)
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 937
From: New York
Default

So, I have a 1/10 hudy setup station and I'm wondering if anyone knows if I can use it, somehow with attachments?*, on my 1/12.
ZEe_NYC is offline  
Old 10-03-2017 | 09:52 AM
  #45880  
tommy911t's Avatar
Tech Master
iTrader: (50)
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,379
Default

My thoughts on new ROAR rule:

$33.24

Antimullet likes this.
tommy911t is offline  
Old 10-03-2017 | 12:33 PM
  #45881  
DesertRat's Avatar
Tech Elite
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 4,509
From: Sniffin the 'Sauce Fumes
Default

Should we do a more detailed guide in the wiki to each brand of tires? I could probably do the Ulti's or CRC's as those are my main tires but someone with experience with JFT and others should probably have some input.
slcf1 likes this.
DesertRat is offline  
Old 10-03-2017 | 01:52 PM
  #45882  
fast-ho-cars's Avatar
Tech Master
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,166
From: it's a dry heat
Default

not sure if it matters racing wise ULTI also shows a G-compound not on the wiki, in three compunds. this is on their site https://ultitires.com/index.php?rout...12/maxPrice=35

-Evolution of the X compound.
-G foam is often suitable mainly for carpet and the condition of an especially high grip.
fast-ho-cars is offline  
Old 10-03-2017 | 02:24 PM
  #45883  
simple's Avatar
Tech Master
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 1,102
From: Windsor, Ontario, Canada
Default

Originally Posted by biz77
Do you use motors in your 1/12th scales in Canada?
No, we just roll the expensive chassis' down a steep incline

Originally Posted by biz77
Did you read the post where I stated I couldn't get an answer in another thread? I need a new motor (for my 1/12th scale) and don't want to buy one that is no longer going to be on the approved list due to the new ROAR rules. The answer to my questions applies to many different classes including 1/12th scale.
Sorry, my mistake, I thought that post was just a whiny attempt at sympathy for a perceived dilemma.
Originally Posted by biz77
Should we avoid discussing things like tire compounds, tire sauce and spring rates in this thread since those discussions could apply to other classes besides 1/12th scale specifically?
Of course not! That wouldn't make sense at all. Now, given that I perceive you are an intelligent fellow that demands last words, I thank you for your continued valuable contribution to this forum.
THEBIGBULL and patorz31 like this.
simple is offline  
Old 10-03-2017 | 07:23 PM
  #45884  
DesertRat's Avatar
Tech Elite
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 4,509
From: Sniffin the 'Sauce Fumes
Default

Originally Posted by fast-ho-cars
not sure if it matters racing wise ULTI also shows a G-compound not on the wiki, in three compunds. this is on their site https://ultitires.com/index.php?rout...12/maxPrice=35

-Evolution of the X compound.
-G foam is often suitable mainly for carpet and the condition of an especially high grip.
I see. I need to give those a shot sometime, anyone on here have experience running Ulti G compound at a big event?
DesertRat is offline  
Old 10-05-2017 | 08:37 AM
  #45885  
tommy911t's Avatar
Tech Master
iTrader: (50)
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,379
Default

Been a while since I wired a car up. Is 16 gauge wire too small for 13.5 blinky 1s?
Thanks!
tommy911t is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.