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Old 07-24-2017 | 09:38 AM
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Old 07-24-2017 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ASM
Maybe it's just me, haven't we already had this discussion twenty or thirty (million)..........times already Your opinion and position on not liking or wanting the once legal Daytona Prototypes included on the approved body list is well documented.

A simple "Hey guys.....awesome race"... and link to the news would have been great as well as appreciated. There's no need to throw jabs (at others, and we know who you intended them for), at this point on a topic that already has rules in place, agreeing with your position. You guys do great work and we appreciate it, just not the personal jabs that seemingly has to be included in some of your posts. We get it.....
Hi Scott;
Sorry for being an annoyance to you. Not my intention.

I've never even once brought to topic up. Forgive me for being slightly annoyed that Gary continues to bring up the topic over and over.

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Old 07-24-2017 | 12:22 PM
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Just ordered the new c7 r body for usgt has anyone tried it yet? Any feedback
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Old 07-24-2017 | 01:32 PM
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I don't mean to be argumentative. The subject is done as far as I'm concerned. But I was just accused of bringing up a subject that is not correct. Howardcano and Freebird brought up the Daytona Prototypes, I just added my opinion in response. I think that is the concept of a forum.

By the way, for those old enough to remember, the term GT and Prototype are not necessarily exclusive of each other. One of the most famous and maybe the best class ever in road racing in the 80s was GTP (GT Prototype).
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Old 07-24-2017 | 01:52 PM
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Not taking sides but:
-Mclaren F1 GTR
-Porsche 911 GT1 - re-release pretty pretty please?
-Mercedes CLK GTR
-Saleen S7-R (bedroom poster)
-Ford GTe
-Mosler MT900
-Maserati MC12 GT...

Those were on the limit of being accepted in GT/GT3 (the first three I mentioned because of the shape), I particularly remember the uproar about the MC12.
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Old 07-24-2017 | 02:01 PM
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Dale - I clearly understand the intention was not to annoy me. Look, you and the PF Team continue to bring fantastic products to this hobby that we love. I feel the exact same way about Gary. Each of you have listened ever so kindly to us as group and have produced the countless things we've wanted to see. It is because of this that I will always hold both PF and McAllister to a higher standard (as I would any other mfr) when it comes to certain things such as conduct in public. Hell, we racers as a group can't seem to agree or to stop complaining about anything. As a working professional in my "real job", I always hold other professionals to a higher standard, hence my displeasure for unnecessary jabs.

We need you guys to be the examples for us to follow, not joining in with us down here in the muddy pits of arguments.

You guys ROCK and we're very appreciative. I will say, if I was the one that had multiple bodies on the approved list, then later removed, which ultimately impacted my bottom line, let's just say I wouldn't have been nearly as restrained as Gary has been.

And Dale, thank you for acknowledging and listening. On a personal note from me, my sincerest appreciation for you guys coming to the dire rescue of the VTA tire situation. The class may have well fallen apart without it!!
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Old 07-24-2017 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by flyingm
I don't mean to be argumentative. The subject is done as far as I'm concerned. But I was just accused of bringing up a subject that is not correct. Howardcano and Freebird brought up the Daytona Prototypes, I just added my opinion in response. I think that is the concept of a forum.

By the way, for those old enough to remember, the term GT and Prototype are not necessarily exclusive of each other. One of the most famous and maybe the best class ever in road racing in the 80s was GTP (GT Prototype).
I did because of the wannabe GT 'that looks so much like a prototype to me" car. burns my butt. Since Ive got 3 brand new unpainted Corvette DP cars that I can't run because 2 weeks after I purchased wording came out and said I can't run those legally. I get it. but for the money invested it still burns my azz. sure I've wasted money many times on other stupid stuff; but that was my choice.


Any one want to buy my DPT bodies. Those that got to legally run them say they were awesome.
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Old 07-24-2017 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by flyingm
I don't mean to be argumentative. The subject is done as far as I'm concerned. But I was just accused of bringing up a subject that is not correct. Howardcano and Freebird brought up the Daytona Prototypes, I just added my opinion in response. I think that is the concept of a forum.
I take full responsibility for the (latest) mess I unwittingly created. Fortunately for me, I live in a society where taking responsibility for causing a problem usually has no repercussions.

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I did because of the wannabe GT 'that looks so much like a prototype to me" car. burns my butt. Since Ive got 3 brand new unpainted Corvette DP cars that I can't run because 2 weeks after I purchased wording came out and said I can't run those legally. I get it. but for the money invested it still burns my azz. sure I've wasted money many times on other stupid stuff; but that was my choice.
You would be welcome here. We still occasionally see one of the McAllister DP bodies racing with us.

And, just to spread the love equally, my brand new, unpainted McAllister Corvette DP sits in my pile of unused bodies, right on top of my Protoform Mulsanne.
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Old 07-24-2017 | 03:03 PM
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Easy solution...

Make LED front headlights mandatory

Run both classes together like a real race.

White LED for Prototype bodies and Yellow for GT cars

The smaller of the two classes gets hand counted
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Old 07-24-2017 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by freebird
I did because of the wannabe GT 'that looks so much like a prototype to me" car. burns my butt. Since Ive got 3 brand new unpainted Corvette DP cars that I can't run because 2 weeks after I purchased wording came out and said I can't run those legally. I get it. but for the money invested it still burns my azz. sure I've wasted money many times on other stupid stuff; but that was my choice.


Any one want to buy my DPT bodies. Those that got to legally run them say they were awesome.
If you cant run them at your local track and you cant sell them to anybody , You could give them to some kids racing sportsman most tracks dont limit kids racing sportsman, Just an Idea.
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Old 07-24-2017 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Metalsoft
Easy solution...

Make LED front headlights mandatory

Run both classes together like a real race.

White LED for Prototype bodies and Yellow for GT cars

The smaller of the two classes gets hand counted
Ive always been in favor of this type of racing and on a big enough track there could be 12 cars! Then again I would have loved to run my F103GT Courage in some sort of 24 Hour race but yeah, that never even came close to happening. I would even mandate a tire change but not happening either.
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Old 07-24-2017 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 30Tooth
Not taking sides but:
-Mclaren F1 GTR
-Porsche 911 GT1 - re-release pretty pretty please?
-Mercedes CLK GTR
-Saleen S7-R (bedroom poster)
-Ford GTe
-Mosler MT900
-Maserati MC12 GT...

Those were on the limit of being accepted in GT/GT3 (the first three I mentioned because of the shape), I particularly remember the uproar about the MC12.
I would love to see a decent Aston Martin (like Pro-Line made) since Im not impressed with the The Build one. The wing is all kinds of weird.
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Old 07-24-2017 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by daleepp
Hi guys;

IMSA staged a great WeatherTech GT race on the weekend an Lime Rock. I don't know if any of you caught it on TV. Awesome racing! The radical mid-engine Porsche bagged it's first win.
As with all their GT-only events, there were no Prototypes or Daytona Prototypes or Dpi (prototypes) eligable. It's a no-brainer: because they are not GT cars.

https://www.motorsport.com/imsa/news...in-933662/?s=1

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Exactly! Only one Aston Martin though but its a beautiful car! Great race between the Corvette and BMW too.
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Old 07-24-2017 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Metalsoft
Easy solution...

Make LED front headlights mandatory

Run both classes together like a real race.

White LED for Prototype bodies and Yellow for GT cars

The smaller of the two classes gets hand counted
Just put a " PT "in the name of the the Prototype drivers and "GT" in the name of gt drivers .score as usual . sort the racers by Class and Overall it could be fun,
Run pan cars as the Prototype , Tc as the GT run them on the same track. It would have to be a big track like Leisure Hours In Illinois though
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Old 07-24-2017 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by SpeedySST
I would love to see a decent Aston Martin (like Pro-Line made) since Im not impressed with the The Build one. The wing is all kinds of weird.
KYO39297 Kyosho Fazer GP Body Set Aston Martin Racing DBR9 No.009 LM 2008 Unpainted

My favourite bodies.

Originally Posted by Lone Drifter
Just put a " PT "in the name of the the Prototype drivers and "GT" in the name of gt drivers .score as usual . sort the racers by Class and Overall it could be fun,
Run pan cars as the Prototype , Tc as the GT run them on the same track. It would have to be a big track like Leisure Hours In Illinois though
That should be the Great Plan, unfortunately tracks are smallish but if we could field something like that....oh man...
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