653LikesTeam Associated B6 & B6D thread
07-30-2016 | 12:04 PM
#2117
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 2,944
From: Santa Clarita, CA
Making my way through the build and everything has been going very well. Kudos to Associated for making a pretty killer manual for this car. One problem I have run into though is my steering knuckles are pretty tight inside the c blocks. Did any of you run into this and did you loosen them up with a 3mm reamer?
07-30-2016 | 12:17 PM
#2119
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 2,944
From: Santa Clarita, CA
And you know why? The front suspension was collapsing more than the rear, now with the longer camber link the rear collapses as much as the front. It's like Usain Bolt having a sore knee so the medic would bang the good knee with a hammer so they're both hurting 
That's the big problem with setup, which end is causing us trouble? Which way to go?
In the end, removing a shim (-1mm for a start) from the front bulkhead would be much better than a longer camber link. BTW, I've handled and analysed dozens of cars and most of them suffer from front suspension collapsing because of low RC height and generally too soft a spring too, that's why most tend to run too soft a spring and lower(or more roll) roll centers in the rear, compounding the issue.
Hope it helps!
That's the big problem with setup, which end is causing us trouble? Which way to go?
In the end, removing a shim (-1mm for a start) from the front bulkhead would be much better than a longer camber link. BTW, I've handled and analysed dozens of cars and most of them suffer from front suspension collapsing because of low RC height and generally too soft a spring too, that's why most tend to run too soft a spring and lower(or more roll) roll centers in the rear, compounding the issue.
Hope it helps!
07-30-2016 | 01:45 PM
#2120
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 3,569
From: My house.
07-30-2016 | 01:53 PM
#2121
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Making my way through the build and everything has been going very well. Kudos to Associated for making a pretty killer manual for this car. One problem I have run into though is my steering knuckles are pretty tight inside the c blocks. Did any of you run into this and did you loosen them up with a 3mm reamer?
07-30-2016 | 03:59 PM
#2122
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 2,168
From: SoCal
Tried moving the shocks to the front, 1 in c block and half in d block. (a little more toe in and narrower) and the car is extremely easy to drive. When the shocks were on the back it almost felt like it made the car swing to much. Now it just feels planted
07-30-2016 | 07:32 PM
#2125
http://www.redrc.net/2016/07/schelle...ium-rear-hubs/
schelle updated the hubs to use with the kit inserts. I was thinking AE would update theirs too eventually.
schelle updated the hubs to use with the kit inserts. I was thinking AE would update theirs too eventually.
07-30-2016 | 07:42 PM
#2126
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 2,168
From: SoCal
Clay fairly high bite today. Sdrc. Kind of made me feel good that one of the fast kids asked if I had ever tried them in the back and that my car looked good. Finished 2nd in the main in my first race in about a year. I was always mid to back of the pack sportsman so 2nd is really good for me. I had fast lap as well. I lowered the front fill center just a little a picked up some steering in the 2nd heat and main and that took my fast lap from 19.8 to 19.2
07-30-2016 | 08:40 PM
#2128
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 5,090
From: Antelope Valley, CA
Anybody actually racing outdoors with the B6D? The car is awesome but the shock towers are not well suited for dirt. We've already broken a front and rear which is something that never happened once on the B5M. I hope they make plastic versions soon. So far that's my only gripe.
07-30-2016 | 08:47 PM
#2129
So I just got done racing on a low/med bite track with my b6 laydown. I was the only one to even have a laydown car in the facility. I was very close on fastest lap times. I went to this race thinking my car was going to be undrivable and it completely exceeded my expectations. This laydown car can be successful on a low bite surface with the correct setup.
07-30-2016 | 09:05 PM
#2130
Anybody actually racing outdoors with the B6D? The car is awesome but the shock towers are not well suited for dirt. We've already broken a front and rear which is something that never happened once on the B5M. I hope they make plastic versions soon. So far that's my only gripe.