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Old 06-17-2016 | 08:21 AM
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the b6 has lower rear shock towers....so the weight of the shocks is lower. lower cg
I know the CG is lower. Yesterday when AE released the new B6 rear tower that allows b5m rear shocks to be used I got the impression there is another benefit to the b5m shocks for bumpy tracks besides higher CG. They stated as answer to my Q that the B5m shocks have more volume as if that is a benefit. What benefit does more volume have besides using up more shock fluid?
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Old 06-17-2016 | 08:31 AM
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We're still not clear on the impact of more volume for the same droop and shock throw.

Maifield has played with it a TON on the 22 2.0, as well as in 1.8th scale. I haven't been given a definitive answer on what it helps.

Fluid displacement and volume are two unknowns that if I had time, would love to collect more data on.
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Old 06-17-2016 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Finalist
I know the CG is lower. Yesterday when AE released the new B6 rear tower that allows b5m rear shocks to be used I got the impression there is another benefit to the b5m shocks for bumpy tracks besides higher CG. They stated as answer to my Q that the B5m shocks have more volume as if that is a benefit. What benefit does more volume have besides using up more shock fluid?
Lots of factors, and unsure if they apply to 1/10. Perhaps more weight over the rear for grip? I have no desire to read or research fluid dynamics for rc cars. I plan to just use the shocks that come with the kit.
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Old 06-17-2016 | 08:49 AM
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Ah ok. I will admit I didn't read if he posted which car he was getting. So I thought I would mention which one would work on which car.
Would be running 17.5 with the lay down trans. Just want to make sure I get the correct part when they become available. Thanks again for all the help!!
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Old 06-17-2016 | 11:13 AM
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Just thought of a possible performance gain/loss for 31mm versus 27.5mm rear shocks... You get different amounts of thread options to adjust ride height? 31mm allows for the spring collar to be threaded up higher???
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Originally Posted by Finalist
Just thought of a possible performance gain/loss for 31mm versus 27.5mm rear shocks... You get different amounts of thread options to adjust ride height? 31mm allows for the spring collar to be threaded up higher???
Right. But the real question is what impact does the change in fluid displacement have on the handling of the car.

Sure, more droop and travel can be calculated.
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Old 06-17-2016 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Rhett McNair
Proline is about to release a body for the car also
Is it going to be a predator and do you know when it's going to be available ?
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Old 06-17-2016 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Finalist
Just thought of a possible performance gain/loss for 31mm versus 27.5mm rear shocks... You get different amounts of thread options to adjust ride height? 31mm allows for the spring collar to be threaded up higher???
You can use the different height cups as well.
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Old 06-17-2016 | 02:02 PM
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Just thought of a possible performance gain/loss for 31mm versus 27.5mm rear shocks... You get different amounts of thread options to adjust ride height? 31mm allows for the spring collar to be threaded up higher???
For Carpet and high bite we run a higher spring rate in the rear to assist with turning and jumping. To loose and your ass hits the jump and your nose is pointing straight down. And when you land you end up breaking things due to your ride height being so low.
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Old 06-17-2016 | 02:40 PM
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For Carpet and high bite we run a higher spring rate in the rear to assist with turning and jumping. To loose and your ass hits the jump and your nose is pointing straight down. And when you land you end up breaking things due to your ride height being so low.
Yes, but you can change spring rates with either 31 or 27.5. Having a shorter shock body (27.5 vs 31mm) isn't going to limit nor increase your spring choices.
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Old 06-18-2016 | 06:06 AM
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May have more to do with lowering the vcg of the car more than anything.
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Old 06-18-2016 | 06:44 AM
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honestly, the best way to see what it does, is you buy the tower and shocks and try it. same with the laydown, buy and try. asking on here is very limited in its usefulness.
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Old 06-19-2016 | 07:39 PM
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I can see a few positives of this taller tower,
1-can use your rear FOX shocks from your B5m
2-will make it easier for someone to fit a B6 gearbox to a B5m
3-longer bodies mean piston doesn't enter the air pocket in top of shock.
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Old 06-20-2016 | 04:28 AM
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What would be the advantage of a laydown tranny in a B6D on a dirt surface (if any)?
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What would be the advantage of a laydown tranny in a B6D on a dirt surface (if any)?
More corner speed at the expense of rear bite.
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