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The track actually does look sealed but sun beaten. I can see spray marks and can hear tire squeal so I would say its been sprayed quite heavily.
According to the documentation I have read, more caster = increased initial turn in or "twitchy" not stable for higher traction surfaces. I have found this to be true in my testing as well.
Desert Rat, how would you make a ball diff semi-tight? On the tiny carpet track where I run these days, my car seems to like a tighter rear diff quite a bit. Problem is the diff becomes a bit crunchy pretty fast. I have tried with ceramic balls in the thrust and carbide main balls: in that case the big balls seem to suffer. I have replaced the bigger balls by ceramic ones, and then it's the thrust plates which become notchy, because I have to put more tension on the assembly. I have also tried AW grease on the main balls (slips too easily, as I feared) and 1 million Tamiya grease (a bit better but inconsistent, and the thrust still loses its smoothness over time).
Any ideas? I was wondering if there was an option for ceramic thrust rings somewhere, or at least some harder metal than the stock ones.
On grip, you want the back to follow the front so you don't scrub energy. If the car looks lazy but runs good lap times, you're probably doing it right.

I don't watch RC races with the sound on, don't like some of the music and some of the announcers are as bad as the music.
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I've never had my car in such a way that it wanted a tight rear diff to gain steering, I could always add steering with other tuning options. A looser rear diff allows the rear to follow the front instead of trying to rotate "on the nose" and holds better corner speed as a result.
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The track is sealed and sprayed with VHT. By the second qualifier the traction is unreal. They need a new sprayer......note the streaks.. I may even try some good used tires.....
I checked my diffs..... Plastic for front and rear. 1/2 turn from tight on the front and almost 7/8 for the rear. I adjusted both to just a tad lower then a half a turn. I plan on running a solid axle in the near future.....
I checked my diffs..... Plastic for front and rear. 1/2 turn from tight on the front and almost 7/8 for the rear. I adjusted both to just a tad lower then a half a turn. I plan on running a solid axle in the near future.....
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Way too much torque for plastic front diffs at these settings: no wonder you were getting rear ended.... Your diffs were slipping, and you'll see a big difference with a front spool(and will's DCJ mod), but I would tighten the rear diff to at least a 1/4 turn from full lock.....
The track is sealed and sprayed with VHT. By the second qualifier the traction is unreal. They need a new sprayer......note the streaks.. I may even try some good used tires.....
I checked my diffs..... Plastic for front and rear. 1/2 turn from tight on the front and almost 7/8 for the rear. I adjusted both to just a tad lower then a half a turn. I plan on running a solid axle in the near future.....
I checked my diffs..... Plastic for front and rear. 1/2 turn from tight on the front and almost 7/8 for the rear. I adjusted both to just a tad lower then a half a turn. I plan on running a solid axle in the near future.....
I notice that you are hitting the brakes at the end of the straight too. Are you concerned about traction rolling or still building confidence in taking a fast corner? A lot of crashing there so it's probably intimidating to carry as much speed as the car can handle. Either way, once the car feels easier to drive, your confidence in it will improve as it becomes more predictable.
VHT is very good stuff and you probably don't need much saucing. Perhaps try applying your sauce at the beginning of the race prior to yours and wiping it off half way through as you head to the track for your heat. The duration also is dependent on track temp and how heavy the spray is. Since you are in sunny Florida, 36's are probably the most consistent tire for your track.
I've never had my car in such a way that it wanted a tight rear diff to gain steering, I could always add steering with other tuning options. A looser rear diff allows the rear to follow the front instead of trying to rotate "on the nose" and holds better corner speed as a result.
Another question for you: what front-back weight bias would you recommend ? I saw you mention a heavier front in another thread, and apparently the pros do indeed run a heavier front on their TCs, at least on carpet.
Way too much torque for plastic front diffs at these settings: no wonder you were getting rear ended.... Your diffs were slipping, and you'll see a big difference with a front spool(and will's DCJ mod), but I would tighten the rear diff to at least a 1/4 turn from full lock.....
Actually my car feels more stable (especially on corner entry) with the tighter rear diff. It did decrease the turning radius a little bit as well but mostly it settled the car down. At this stage the car just feels better and is faster for me with a slightly tighter setting, period. I am not talking crazy tight, something that feels like maybe 10000 in a modern TC. I just have a hard time having a smooth diff for a long time with this setting.
Another question for you: what front-back weight bias would you recommend ? I saw you mention a heavier front in another thread, and apparently the pros do indeed run a heavier front on their TCs, at least on carpet.
Another question for you: what front-back weight bias would you recommend ? I saw you mention a heavier front in another thread, and apparently the pros do indeed run a heavier front on their TCs, at least on carpet.
I just seem to have a gift because every car I own, either touring, 1/12, or offroad, never has any problem generating front grip. Maybe I use too much sauce on the front but it's the way I found that I could make the car more consistent run-to-run and during the run.
As for weight distribution, most new touring cars built the way the instructions say to build it are a bit lighter in the front than the rear. I like a little more front bias, 50:50 or somewhat heavier in the front, as the increased forward bias takes away a little of the tendency to over-rotate on corner entry and makes the car easier to drive, smoothing out the transition between high-speed push and mid corner. It also gives a little more on-power steering and control because it keeps more weight on the front under power. The general rule of thumb is that increasing your cars rear-bias will give more turn-in, and lose grip on corner exit. There are exceptions to every rule, of course, so your results may vary.



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