Tune With Camber Links
#2116
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 2,766
From: Houston
Would it be possible for you to write down the actual steps in your guide in a new thread? This thread is out of bounds kind of and trying to read up 141 paggs is too daunting to let new guys in (and me). Especially when you point out that some of the info is outdated it makes it even harder. If you make the first post in a new thread and then keep it updated as the reference post, all the following posts would be discussions around the concept.
I do find your conclusions on the subject very very interesting and the scientific approach is something that I believe in strongly. We just need the concepts layed out in an updated and proper guide. Please?
I do find your conclusions on the subject very very interesting and the scientific approach is something that I believe in strongly. We just need the concepts layed out in an updated and proper guide. Please?
#2118

I can't speak for everyone, but I'd sure be grateful....
#2119
Tech Addict
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 623
From: Austria
#2121
I think Fred had already put a load of effort into this thread.
Thanks, it has been very useful in tuning my buggy. Not there yet but am trying to adjust one thing at a time and having read this thread a couple of times it helped me understand the effect each change has - which isn't always what I predicted it would be.
Thanks, it has been very useful in tuning my buggy. Not there yet but am trying to adjust one thing at a time and having read this thread a couple of times it helped me understand the effect each change has - which isn't always what I predicted it would be.
#2125
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 2,766
From: Houston
Saying that something increases body roll or decreases body roll is confusing. Especially when decreasing body roll can result in less traction at that end and increasing body roll can result in more. Or maybe it doesn't? Then you also need to consider that a particular setup isn't only based on the track but also the motor used and the speed on that track, which is where things get really confusing. You may find that a higher average roll center works well on a track when you are running a 17.5 in blinky mode but is undriveable on that same track with a 7.5T in unlimited, where you might prefer a lower average roll center.
It's best to stop thinking in terms of increases or decreases body roll in regards to settings and think more along the lines of what is it doing to camber gain with suspension travel and what effects does that have?
It's best to stop thinking in terms of increases or decreases body roll in regards to settings and think more along the lines of what is it doing to camber gain with suspension travel and what effects does that have?
#2126
Tech Regular
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 432
Saying that something increases body roll or decreases body roll is confusing. Especially when decreasing body roll can result in less traction at that end and increasing body roll can result in more. Or maybe it doesn't? Then you also need to consider that a particular setup isn't only based on the track but also the motor used and the speed on that track, which is where things get really confusing. You may find that a higher average roll center works well on a track when you are running a 17.5 in blinky mode but is undriveable on that same track with a 7.5T in unlimited, where you might prefer a lower average roll center.
It's best to stop thinking in terms of increases or decreases body roll in regards to settings and think more along the lines of what is it doing to camber gain with suspension travel and what effects does that have?
It's best to stop thinking in terms of increases or decreases body roll in regards to settings and think more along the lines of what is it doing to camber gain with suspension travel and what effects does that have?
I dont believe my answer was confusing at all. It is true that doing so will promote more body roll or weight transfer. Your right if you are arguing however, that it depends upon enough grip from the tyres to cause the leverage for the chasis to roll further.
I agree when you say that settings in a car with a less aggressive motor may be fine in the same conditions where a more aggressive motor will make the car undriveable. High grip astro or carpet are great examples where the rear of the car under hard accelaration can roll over on you or collapse because of an aggressive motor. Thats why its important to understand that a camber link change such as what was asked can encourage less/more body roll or weight transfer.
Last edited by Piles; 02-18-2016 at 11:55 AM.



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