Weather has cooperated and outdoor track should be great. It's up to John which track we run.

If weather is nice I think I'll pit outside for WNW.

This was the original thought process when Mark and John first introduced the 17.5 buggy class at RCHR........and then the mod buggy class disappeared with all the not-so-noob drivers switching to 17.5.

Maybe ROAR should make a rule forcing hobbyists of different skill levels to race in certain classes. That will keep people from whining.

Or maybe we should just let people run what they please regardless of skill level. That sounds like a better idea.

A suggestion from another thread.

If you want the 17.5 class to cater to the new racers then rename it from 17.5 2wd buggy to “Novice 2wd Buggy” or “Amateur 2wd Buggy”, then rename the open 2wd buggy class to “Expert 2wd Buggy”. Pride is a powerful thing.

There was actually an interesting RCCA article on that topic recently, Eric. It sounds like a good idea in principle, but it still leaves two problems open - more advanced drivers dropping down to novice or amateur to get more wins, and less advanced drivers entering the amateur or expert classes because they don't want to be classified as a novice. That is actually quite similar to noobs starting in 2wd mod and advanced drivers staying in 17.5, and also raises the question of who gets to be the arbiter of who else is novice, amateur, and expert.

I don't see any reason why both classes can't be populated with both novice and experienced drivers. No matter what class you race in, there will be top drivers and not-top drivers. Why single out 2wd buggy for this? How many people are in 4wd SC when what they clearly need is a trip to the psychiatric ward? How many experienced drivers run 17.5 SC without other people complaining about it? I didn't see anybody complain when Montoya left F1 for "lessor" motorsports like NASCAR and then Indy. He wanted to drive different stuff, so let him drive different stuff.

I say let the racers race what they want. Once you start compartmentalizing people by skill level and/or dictating what motors they should or shouldn't run, it creates a class system between people that shouldn't exist in the first place.

This is why I'm taking my 4wd buggy to the sportsman class at the next trophy race.

You may win by default. I've seen plenty of people who would traditionally race in Sportsman start straight away in one of the 17.5 or mod classes.

Mod buggy, to me, feels too point and shoot. With 17.5, you need to learn the lines of the track and your car, NOT YOUR MOTOR, needs to be on point!! Its a drivers class, if you can't stay in the line every lap and don't have your car setup just right, you will loose no matter who's motor your running. I totally agree with Sticks, too many people in mod that really have no business being there! Same goes for SCT. People assume cause they bought a SCT, that's the class they sign up for, regardless if they've never even seen a track before!

Nothing will ever stop that from happening.

Had fun last night, track was challenging. It will be fast as it hardens up. Nice jobs guys!!


On a side note: duck season opened last night. Took a shot to the head but didn't go down......hopefully the minor concussion doesn't last long. Maybe all infield marshals should wear helmets. If that was an 1/8 buggy I think maybe Donald would be laying horizontal.

Good times last night, track layout is fun. Biggest challenge for that layout is marshaling it. Oh and keeping my 4 wheel buggy running, broke my first front arm on the XB4 last night.

Wabbit season!

new track layout was fun. good times as usual.

Egg flippers unite!! Just ordered for my XB4, gotta try something to avoid breaking those $35 upper decks.