Then you'd also have to ban Novak, fantom and a bunch of others, they all make outlaw 17.5 motors.

27T brushed motors used to have locked endbells. I wouldn't mind seeing something like that return for spec motors, to keep them tamper proof.

Precisely why we have never, ever run any spec or stock classes up in Winsted. More work for the race director to do and a greater chance for bickering between racers.

Trinity makes the monster locked motor it is sealed and the timimg is locked its a perfect motor for "stock"

Why not just ban all motors not approved by ShurSpee......I mean ROAR?!

That's why stock racing BLOWS! It actually costs you more money if you want to stay competitive. Whether it's lipos "the hot" new motor that came out or trying to lightening your car/drivetrain.


Mod. One motor, one lipo until you fry it.....Done!

Been done with 17.5 since June. So happy I've kept a mod in my short course l. When I build a new 2wd buggy in the winter it will be mod as well. I've had it with the motor wars, the "cheater" tags, it's just plain dumb , let the newbies have stock, and stay mod

"Ducky"

Best way to tech is with an inductance meter and caliper... An experienced tech guy is able to spot check motors installed in the car and very rarely will need to remove/disasemble...if you have questions feel free to pm me.

Honestly, it makes no difference to me whether somebody is using a cheater motor. I have no problem outpacing most of the mod buggies with my year-old stock motor and my year-plus old batteries. The notion that you need to keep spending money to stay competitive in stock is nonsense. The driver will always matter more than the motor, which leads to my main point:

The problem with stock isn't that the regulations aren't being enforced. The problem is that there are too many regulations for it. There should only be two rules for it: 17.5 turns on the stator and a 540 size can. Maybe a locked endbell if you want to stay on the safe side. Outside of that, do as you please. If you want to blow $400 on four separate motors for different track conditions, then have at it. It grows the economy and keeps motor manufacturers in business. If you want to be smart and use a single 17.5 motor and rely on your driving skills to win, then all the better for you.

Senna, Hamilton, Alonso, and Moss all proved that you can level the playing field with driving skill alone. We need to let the regulations reflect that by getting rid of all of these stupid rules about rotor length and stator wire gauge.

Speaking of 17.5. Do you guys have the lrp x20?

Well said Sticks!!

Zing!

Let's nominate Sticks for president of ROAR. I'm sure he's got the free time .

Are we 100% on running the new outdoor layout for WNW? Just trying to pack my stuff tonight since the odds of being able to bug out early from work tomorrow are slim to none, and Slim just left town. If I can leave the indoor hoops at home it's just one less thing I need to think about.

I'll be running the 17.5 D3.5 in club races since we've only got an open class (gotta wring every last cent out of that investment). When it counts in 17.5 I'll run something ROAR legal, even if we're not a ROAR track. I suspect there will be nearly zero impact on my lap times regardless of whether or not I'm running a mill that was once legal or is legal with the "new" testing regime.