2013-14 On-Road
#301
Stormer starts carrying....
Awesomatix cars!!
http://www.stormerhobbies.com/cgi-bi...&pn=AWEA700EVO
Oh nellie! You no longer have the "luxury" of driving an Xray.
How's the Awesomatix car doing? Check these results.
2014 ROAR nationals Champion, Modified TC - Kody Knudtson
2014 ROAR nationals Champion, 17.5 TC - Kyle Klingforth
2014 Snowbirds Champion 17.5 TC - Larry Fairtrace
2014 Snowbirds Champion USVTA - Michael Hanulec
2013 Halloween Classic TQ + Win 17.5 TC - Karl Hoffmeister
2013 Reedy Race Champion 17.5 TC - Austin Brumblay
Awesomatix cars!!
http://www.stormerhobbies.com/cgi-bi...&pn=AWEA700EVO
Oh nellie! You no longer have the "luxury" of driving an Xray.
How's the Awesomatix car doing? Check these results.
2014 ROAR nationals Champion, Modified TC - Kody Knudtson
2014 ROAR nationals Champion, 17.5 TC - Kyle Klingforth
2014 Snowbirds Champion 17.5 TC - Larry Fairtrace
2014 Snowbirds Champion USVTA - Michael Hanulec
2013 Halloween Classic TQ + Win 17.5 TC - Karl Hoffmeister
2013 Reedy Race Champion 17.5 TC - Austin Brumblay
Last edited by celt; 03-04-2014 at 05:17 AM.
#302
Stormer starts carrying....
Awesomatix cars!!
http://www.stormerhobbies.com/cgi-bi...&pn=AWEA700EVO
Oh nellie!
How's the Awesomatix car doing? Check these results.
2014 ROAR nationals Champion, Modified TC - Kody Knudtson
2014 ROAR nationals Champion, 17.5 TC - Kyle Klingforth
2014 Snowbirds Champion 17.5 TC - Larry Fairtrace
2014 Snowbirds Champion USVTA - Michael Hanulec
2013 Halloween Classic TQ + Win 17.5 TC - Karl Hoffmeister
2013 Reedy Race Champion 17.5 TC - Austin Brumblay
I wish I hadn't seen that. You no longer have the "luxury" of driving an Xray.
Awesomatix cars!!
http://www.stormerhobbies.com/cgi-bi...&pn=AWEA700EVO
Oh nellie!
How's the Awesomatix car doing? Check these results.
2014 ROAR nationals Champion, Modified TC - Kody Knudtson
2014 ROAR nationals Champion, 17.5 TC - Kyle Klingforth
2014 Snowbirds Champion 17.5 TC - Larry Fairtrace
2014 Snowbirds Champion USVTA - Michael Hanulec
2013 Halloween Classic TQ + Win 17.5 TC - Karl Hoffmeister
2013 Reedy Race Champion 17.5 TC - Austin Brumblay
I wish I hadn't seen that. You no longer have the "luxury" of driving an Xray.
Just buy one already.

It's only money, you can always go make more
#304
I do the sheet of paper pinned between the spacer and the bearing, then tighten the left hub to the axle routine. Leaves enough to room to feel it being free, but not enough to really see it.
#305
Between bad knees, a 15 year old who doesn't listen and every family event under the sun scheduled for Sunday afternoon, I'm kinda tied up.
#307
Stormer starts carrying....
Awesomatix cars!!
http://www.stormerhobbies.com/cgi-bi...&pn=AWEA700EVO
Oh nellie! You no longer have the "luxury" of driving an Xray.
How's the Awesomatix car doing? Check these results.
2014 ROAR nationals Champion, Modified TC - Kody Knudtson
2014 ROAR nationals Champion, 17.5 TC - Kyle Klingforth
2014 Snowbirds Champion 17.5 TC - Larry Fairtrace
2014 Snowbirds Champion USVTA - Michael Hanulec
2013 Halloween Classic TQ + Win 17.5 TC - Karl Hoffmeister
2013 Reedy Race Champion 17.5 TC - Austin Brumblay
Awesomatix cars!!
http://www.stormerhobbies.com/cgi-bi...&pn=AWEA700EVO
Oh nellie! You no longer have the "luxury" of driving an Xray.
How's the Awesomatix car doing? Check these results.
2014 ROAR nationals Champion, Modified TC - Kody Knudtson
2014 ROAR nationals Champion, 17.5 TC - Kyle Klingforth
2014 Snowbirds Champion 17.5 TC - Larry Fairtrace
2014 Snowbirds Champion USVTA - Michael Hanulec
2013 Halloween Classic TQ + Win 17.5 TC - Karl Hoffmeister
2013 Reedy Race Champion 17.5 TC - Austin Brumblay
Last edited by liljohn1064; 03-04-2014 at 07:52 AM.
#310
#311
#312
#314
Stormer starts carrying....
Awesomatix cars!!
Oh nellie! You no longer have the "luxury" of driving an Xray.
How's the Awesomatix car doing? Check these results.
2014 ROAR nationals Champion, Modified TC - Kody Knudtson
2014 ROAR nationals Champion, 17.5 TC - Kyle Klingforth
2014 Snowbirds Champion 17.5 TC - Larry Fairtrace
2014 Snowbirds Champion USVTA - Michael Hanulec
2013 Halloween Classic TQ + Win 17.5 TC - Karl Hoffmeister
2013 Reedy Race Champion 17.5 TC - Austin Brumblay
Awesomatix cars!!
Oh nellie! You no longer have the "luxury" of driving an Xray.
How's the Awesomatix car doing? Check these results.
2014 ROAR nationals Champion, Modified TC - Kody Knudtson
2014 ROAR nationals Champion, 17.5 TC - Kyle Klingforth
2014 Snowbirds Champion 17.5 TC - Larry Fairtrace
2014 Snowbirds Champion USVTA - Michael Hanulec
2013 Halloween Classic TQ + Win 17.5 TC - Karl Hoffmeister
2013 Reedy Race Champion 17.5 TC - Austin Brumblay
It has a lot of good design ideas, but boy did they miss on the usability side. To me it looks like they built a kit for the team drivers and decided to let everyone try it.
The setup on that car is way to complex for the average racer that wouldn't be able to notice the difference in the small adjustments that could be made anyway. My 2 cents is that the average racer will have the settings incorrect more often than correct (most likely having the 2 sides set differently) causing them more grief than success. They would have been better off leaving the tuning options in, but replacing the adjustable turnbuckles with solid linkages that optional parts would be bought with say 1 degree differences.
To be honest back in the day a lot of the pro's I raced with would have needed a setup tech to help them get the car dialed into their driving style. Also wouldn't the settings be fragile, with a good wall slap possibly readjusting a linkage for you?
This reminds me of software development in a way. If programmers write a general use software, that can only be used by someone that can write code which is say 8 people out of the 100 targeted users, is it a good product with only 8 people being able to use it? I see the same issue looking at this car, it is close though with some minor changes.
Of course the price is outrageous too.
Just my 2 cents
chris
#315
Wow, how did that car get released!
It has a lot of good design ideas, but boy did they miss on the usability side. To me it looks like they built a kit for the team drivers and decided to let everyone try it.
The setup on that car is way to complex for the average racer that wouldn't be able to notice the difference in the small adjustments that could be made anyway. My 2 cents is that the average racer will have the settings incorrect more often than correct (most likely having the 2 sides set differently) causing them more grief than success. They would have been better off leaving the tuning options in, but replacing the adjustable turnbuckles with solid linkages that optional parts would be bought with say 1 degree differences.
To be honest back in the day a lot of the pro's I raced with would have needed a setup tech to help them get the car dialed into their driving style. Also wouldn't the settings be fragile, with a good wall slap possibly readjusting a linkage for you?
This reminds me of software development in a way. If programmers write a general use software, that can only be used by someone that can write code which is say 8 people out of the 100 targeted users, is it a good product with only 8 people being able to use it? I see the same issue looking at this car, it is close though with some minor changes.
Of course the price is outrageous too.
Just my 2 cents
chris
It has a lot of good design ideas, but boy did they miss on the usability side. To me it looks like they built a kit for the team drivers and decided to let everyone try it.
The setup on that car is way to complex for the average racer that wouldn't be able to notice the difference in the small adjustments that could be made anyway. My 2 cents is that the average racer will have the settings incorrect more often than correct (most likely having the 2 sides set differently) causing them more grief than success. They would have been better off leaving the tuning options in, but replacing the adjustable turnbuckles with solid linkages that optional parts would be bought with say 1 degree differences.
To be honest back in the day a lot of the pro's I raced with would have needed a setup tech to help them get the car dialed into their driving style. Also wouldn't the settings be fragile, with a good wall slap possibly readjusting a linkage for you?
This reminds me of software development in a way. If programmers write a general use software, that can only be used by someone that can write code which is say 8 people out of the 100 targeted users, is it a good product with only 8 people being able to use it? I see the same issue looking at this car, it is close though with some minor changes.
Of course the price is outrageous too.
Just my 2 cents
chris
Not for everyone, but you cannot deny they aren't afraid to innovate. For those that feel the need, or appreciate this level of quality, why not? Good design trickles down to consumer levels, so we all benefit at some point.
My admiration comes from their willingness to think for themselves and completely rethink a solution. I think the car is stunningly beautiful. I certainly wouldn't suggest it shouldn't exist because it isn't designed for mediocrity.
I want to get one just to build it and then run it in VTA.




The only parts that might be hard to find are the 200mm arms... I think I can find those too if I look... Yep, ebay has them.