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Old 03-04-2014 | 05:04 AM
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Stormer starts carrying....

Awesomatix cars!!

http://www.stormerhobbies.com/cgi-bi...&pn=AWEA700EVO

Oh nellie! You no longer have the "luxury" of driving an Xray.

How's the Awesomatix car doing? Check these results.

2014 ROAR nationals Champion, Modified TC - Kody Knudtson
2014 ROAR nationals Champion, 17.5 TC - Kyle Klingforth
2014 Snowbirds Champion 17.5 TC - Larry Fairtrace
2014 Snowbirds Champion USVTA - Michael Hanulec
2013 Halloween Classic TQ + Win 17.5 TC - Karl Hoffmeister
2013 Reedy Race Champion 17.5 TC - Austin Brumblay

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Old 03-04-2014 | 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by celt
Stormer starts carrying....

Awesomatix cars!!

http://www.stormerhobbies.com/cgi-bi...&pn=AWEA700EVO

Oh nellie!

How's the Awesomatix car doing? Check these results.

2014 ROAR nationals Champion, Modified TC - Kody Knudtson
2014 ROAR nationals Champion, 17.5 TC - Kyle Klingforth
2014 Snowbirds Champion 17.5 TC - Larry Fairtrace
2014 Snowbirds Champion USVTA - Michael Hanulec
2013 Halloween Classic TQ + Win 17.5 TC - Karl Hoffmeister
2013 Reedy Race Champion 17.5 TC - Austin Brumblay


I wish I hadn't seen that. You no longer have the "luxury" of driving an Xray.

Just buy one already.

It's only money, you can always go make more
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Old 03-04-2014 | 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by whitrzac
Just buy one already.

It's only money, you can always go make more
From Russia with love...move over 007!
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Old 03-04-2014 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by v_squared
I run mine without any slop but a little play might not hurt. I just make sure my axle can spin freely without the motor.
I do the sheet of paper pinned between the spacer and the bearing, then tighten the left hub to the axle routine. Leaves enough to room to feel it being free, but not enough to really see it.
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Old 03-04-2014 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by whitrzac
me = zach
glwagon = gabe
v_squared = vue
celt = stan
chad_h = chad
liljohn1064 = jon, maybe he'll show up eventually...
Weaves1 = karal weaver(club accountant)
Between bad knees, a 15 year old who doesn't listen and every family event under the sun scheduled for Sunday afternoon, I'm kinda tied up.
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Old 03-04-2014 | 06:52 AM
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For those of you running the SP V3.0 motor: What sensor board are you currently using? From what I've been hearing the sweet spot is somewhere between 40 and 45 degrees.
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Old 03-04-2014 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by celt
Stormer starts carrying....

Awesomatix cars!!

http://www.stormerhobbies.com/cgi-bi...&pn=AWEA700EVO

Oh nellie! You no longer have the "luxury" of driving an Xray.

How's the Awesomatix car doing? Check these results.

2014 ROAR nationals Champion, Modified TC - Kody Knudtson
2014 ROAR nationals Champion, 17.5 TC - Kyle Klingforth
2014 Snowbirds Champion 17.5 TC - Larry Fairtrace
2014 Snowbirds Champion USVTA - Michael Hanulec
2013 Halloween Classic TQ + Win 17.5 TC - Karl Hoffmeister
2013 Reedy Race Champion 17.5 TC - Austin Brumblay
How about one of these? IRS TC3 Conversion. I have one set up for TA, but never finished painting the body. I will soon have the Luxury of driving XRAY. Used, but in great shape. Those results are pretty amazing though. I just don't think $900+ for the tricked out version is really where my pocketbook lies.


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Old 03-04-2014 | 07:36 AM
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There's a couple guys with TC3s at the track.

They can't find parts for them anymore...
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Originally Posted by whitrzac
There's a couple guys with TC3s at the track.

They can't find parts for them anymore...
I have them all.
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Old 03-04-2014 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by celt
Stormer starts carrying....

Awesomatix cars!!

http://www.stormerhobbies.com/cgi-bi...&pn=AWEA700EVO
I thought Kyosho was expensive!
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Old 03-04-2014 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by whitrzac
There's a couple guys with TC3s at the track.

They can't find parts for them anymore...
The only parts that might be hard to find are the 200mm arms... I think I can find those too if I look... Yep, ebay has them.
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Old 03-04-2014 | 06:48 PM
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The only parts that might be hard to find are the 200mm arms... I think I can find those too if I look... Yep, ebay has them.
We have found them without issue, not sure though how long that will continue though. Within the last two weeks we have gotten spares for what appears to be the parts that break the most. TC3 is an ok car to drive, will just have to stay away from the others so I don't hate it too much
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TC3 is a solid VTA contender, It is heavy enough it needs very little weight added to "make weight".
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Old 03-04-2014 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by celt
Stormer starts carrying....

Awesomatix cars!!



Oh nellie! You no longer have the "luxury" of driving an Xray.

How's the Awesomatix car doing? Check these results.

2014 ROAR nationals Champion, Modified TC - Kody Knudtson
2014 ROAR nationals Champion, 17.5 TC - Kyle Klingforth
2014 Snowbirds Champion 17.5 TC - Larry Fairtrace
2014 Snowbirds Champion USVTA - Michael Hanulec
2013 Halloween Classic TQ + Win 17.5 TC - Karl Hoffmeister
2013 Reedy Race Champion 17.5 TC - Austin Brumblay
Wow, how did that car get released!

It has a lot of good design ideas, but boy did they miss on the usability side. To me it looks like they built a kit for the team drivers and decided to let everyone try it.

The setup on that car is way to complex for the average racer that wouldn't be able to notice the difference in the small adjustments that could be made anyway. My 2 cents is that the average racer will have the settings incorrect more often than correct (most likely having the 2 sides set differently) causing them more grief than success. They would have been better off leaving the tuning options in, but replacing the adjustable turnbuckles with solid linkages that optional parts would be bought with say 1 degree differences.

To be honest back in the day a lot of the pro's I raced with would have needed a setup tech to help them get the car dialed into their driving style. Also wouldn't the settings be fragile, with a good wall slap possibly readjusting a linkage for you?

This reminds me of software development in a way. If programmers write a general use software, that can only be used by someone that can write code which is say 8 people out of the 100 targeted users, is it a good product with only 8 people being able to use it? I see the same issue looking at this car, it is close though with some minor changes.

Of course the price is outrageous too.

Just my 2 cents
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Old 03-05-2014 | 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Cgolf
Wow, how did that car get released!

It has a lot of good design ideas, but boy did they miss on the usability side. To me it looks like they built a kit for the team drivers and decided to let everyone try it.

The setup on that car is way to complex for the average racer that wouldn't be able to notice the difference in the small adjustments that could be made anyway. My 2 cents is that the average racer will have the settings incorrect more often than correct (most likely having the 2 sides set differently) causing them more grief than success. They would have been better off leaving the tuning options in, but replacing the adjustable turnbuckles with solid linkages that optional parts would be bought with say 1 degree differences.

To be honest back in the day a lot of the pro's I raced with would have needed a setup tech to help them get the car dialed into their driving style. Also wouldn't the settings be fragile, with a good wall slap possibly readjusting a linkage for you?

This reminds me of software development in a way. If programmers write a general use software, that can only be used by someone that can write code which is say 8 people out of the 100 targeted users, is it a good product with only 8 people being able to use it? I see the same issue looking at this car, it is close though with some minor changes.

Of course the price is outrageous too.

Just my 2 cents
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Awesomatix has never claimed to target the beginner or even moderately skilled driver market. This is no doubt a pro level car that is designed for a customer that is willing to deal with esoteric equipment. The difference here is that clearly the car works. It's utterly dominating large races without high dollar drivers.

Not for everyone, but you cannot deny they aren't afraid to innovate. For those that feel the need, or appreciate this level of quality, why not? Good design trickles down to consumer levels, so we all benefit at some point.

My admiration comes from their willingness to think for themselves and completely rethink a solution. I think the car is stunningly beautiful. I certainly wouldn't suggest it shouldn't exist because it isn't designed for mediocrity.

I want to get one just to build it and then run it in VTA.
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